All Comments on 'A Simple Case of Infidelity Pt. 02'

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AnonymousAnonymous10 days ago

The Prodigal Wife returns home in remorse. The husband has been facing community and family about reconciliation. (External pressure?) The wounds have not healed yet. Internal pressures are in flux.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 months ago

Btb haters seem to fail to read the part about how Richard used Rohypnol (low doses?) on her both in college and thr later when they reconnected. Here her descriptions about taking one dose and then when taking two and she forgot everything. What confuses me is she is a pill head but has no idea of what Rohypnol is used for? Crazy. Of course doesn't explain the emotional affair. That explanation comes in chapter 5.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 months ago

Good series. The ending is not what I expected. So deep, so sad, so triumphant. This is not remotely a normal cheating story.

AA82ndAAAA82ndAA2 months ago

Another cheater that won't admit they did it mainly because they could. Entitled, spoiled person with no moral fiber. The story so far is great. On to # 3.

AnonymousAnonymous6 months ago

Her parents were worthless snobs she should have cut them out of her life after they set her husband up to lose their savings and were complicent in setting her up with her old boyfriend

AnonymousAnonymous11 months ago

Really enjoying the story. A couple of inconsistencies; If Leslie is only going to admit to 3 encounters it seems unlikely that she is spending an extra $70/week for gas by going down to the Motel 6 three times. You use the word "homely" twice when you mean to use the word "homey" Homely means unattractive, homey means cozy, making you secure, etc.

Pjam1968Pjam1968about 1 year ago

I know life is not always black and white, but tale is bit a lot of shades of grey for my book

WetheNorthWetheNorthabout 1 year ago

At least Frances got some balls back

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

Wow, pillpopper and a cheat?

Francis sure picked a winner! /sarcasm

ArdieffArdieffover 1 year ago

Leslie is a narcisstic addict. A real price. But not strange considering her sociopath parents.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

Wife is a stupid idiot. 22 yrs down the drain and tried to convince. The MC he did not see what he saw. Fuck her. Drug issue or not you are a bad person that does not get sympathy from moat people

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 2 years ago

I thought this story was put to bed in part 1. Now, it’s like Cujo — it just won’t die. I read this second part, and will read the third if it doesn’t get stupid. I would have been a happy camper with just part 1.

Ed

KiwihunterKiwihunteralmost 2 years ago

Really enjoying this story. Love the plot and the fact that you have made the characters believable. They're real,not perfect caricatures of pure evil or perfect saints. Life is not lived in absolutes.

Not invective but a person of Leslie's class would never say "me and Francis " or use that horrible word "gotten". She would say "Francis and I" and instead of gotten would say become, have, or even just "got". This is just a result of the level of education and the class that she comes from.

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

Well written. But it doesn't add up. She's an unapologetic slut...sneaking around and fucking her old BF.

Then she's a repentant sinner with a good heart who only wants her husband and family back and will do whatever she needs to? Can't even explain well why she cheated?

And 3 times? Come on...he noticed the gas bill from the visa over the course of an entire month?! Once or twice a week from what the hotel clerk said. That would be 10 to 15 times at least in the motel. And he caught them at his own house once. If he caught them once? Probably means they were using the house at least once a week for a month or two. This was a full blown affair. Carried out from Thanksgiving through Feb/March.

She got caught in her lies. She's a tramp. Had no respect for her husband.

Now we are supposed to believe she wants him back at all costs?

Meh. I can see where this is going. RAAC.

jsch1947jsch1947over 2 years ago

Your question, RAAC or BTB? I would say RAAC. With particular focus on the "...At Any Cost". Rewriting history to make the offense "3 or 4 times", muddies the facts laid out in chapter 1.

jsch1947jsch1947over 2 years ago

This is the second time I've read this. It's superb. But you cheated."Three times".... Bullshit!!

Remember, what put him wise was a few WEEKS of gas mileage. How many trips over the course of a month. Then the various GPS checks and confirmations. Even conservatively, she fucked Weatherby 40-50x. It was a full blown affair, just from motel 6. No serious mention of the marital bed, but yet, it's now being alluded to.

This ignores the disrespect she expressed when confronted.

Francis had valid reasons to have her drawn and quartered. The fact that hesitated to file, and she ignored him further, just adds to the insult.

If she really wanted her marriage back, she should have been vocal about it from the minute he kicked her out.

Dittybopper6989Dittybopper6989almost 3 years ago

Nicely done, it is fitting together well. It could go either way.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 3 years ago

Hanging on every word, you got me hooked.

Demosthenes384bcDemosthenes384bcabout 3 years ago

Back to 5* again...LOL! Interesting Richard was giving her Ropi's and if that's a foreshadow to "why" in the story. Guess I'll find out. Well written and feeling a lot more "real" in this chapter.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 3 years ago

Now we discover her parents are as weird as she is. What kind of grandparents "never truly accept" their grandchildren? --- On another note, I don't know if it was the author's mistake or the character's, but General Braddock wasn't (and isn't) buried in Maryland.

johntcookseyjohntcookseyover 3 years ago

I’m always impressed with how well you humanize and make sympathetic the transgressors in your stories. A difficult fence upon which to sit. Very compelling characterizations. Onward to Ch. 3.

TorgauTorgaualmost 4 years ago

Great characters. Excellent plot. Looking forward to the next segment. Thanks for sharing.

jsch1947jsch1947about 4 years ago
Flawed

I love your story, and the characters.

Leslie's attitude and behavior are contradictory from earlier.

Plus.

3 trips to the motel??? Really??

How many trips to show up on a fuel bill, over how many weeks???

And you're saying 3????

AnonymousAnonymousabout 4 years ago
This part is really well written, but...

you've radically changed how you are writing Leslie. She goes from a complete psychotic to an "everywoman" who just fell into sin. These are two radically different characters. Writing the drugs into the plot doesn't bridge the psycho to the ordinary fallen wife. Any reunion with the first Leslie is a crass RAAC. The second Leslie might be reconciled with. This is a huge plot problem. Because I prefer the second Leslie, I'll pretend that the psycho-bitch never made an appearance and keep reading.

AnonymousAnonymousover 4 years ago
Loving the story

I love this story. It is fairly well written, but most of all I like the story line. I am reading it for the second time and am enjoying it even more this time as I am able to concentrate more on the characters and the character development. Keep up the good work!

MarkT63MarkT63over 4 years ago
Question???

Will Francis become a Cuck, or stay a man and keep his self respect??!!

Schwanze1Schwanze1almost 5 years ago
Yeah

I'm remembering the story now. What a fucked up plot. MC is just a bug under a magnifying glass on a sunny day and Car is the odd kid frying him just to see him squirm.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 5 years ago
carvohi does such a masterful job

of getting into the head space of lying duplicitous cheating cunts one wonder if "he" didnt lie on "his" membership form

his protagonists are always such gas-lighting narcissistic pieces of shit I cant help but wonder if the reason he writes them so well is the lifetime he spent as one

26thNC26thNCalmost 5 years ago
Back

Leslie is back, and she is going to try to get Francis back. I would like to hear her explanation for Richard. That will be a difficult thing to overcome.

Baddogie59Baddogie59almost 5 years ago
Good Read

Well now at least she is going to try and fix what damage she has done.

I just hope she can be honest and forthcoming. Even if she can't repair her relationship with her husband she can be there for her kids.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 5 years ago
Rohypnol?

So is Richard Weatherby going to slide on the whole rape thing?

He wanted her to take it again, maybe he helped her out with some.

Schwanze1Schwanze1over 5 years ago
Well

I didn't feel like I was reading a Twilight Zone script this time. Wonder where the pill popping is going. Still reading.

oldbearswitcholdbearswitchover 5 years ago
Ugh

RAAC crap coming. What selfish wste of a Woman.

fifteen16fifteen16over 5 years ago
Avoid

Catholicism + money = prejudice. Avoid that situation, it just leads to trouble.

Good yarn carvohi.

johntcookseyjohntcookseyabout 6 years ago
Part way through

I think this is my third time through A Simple Case. It may be my favorite of your stories. Leslie is my favorite antagonist/protagonist. I always enjoy stories wherein someone falls, and then redeems themselves. I think that is an essential part of the human condition. Perfect people are boring. Anyway, I'm enjoying it. I appreciate the additional asides about local history and geography. Really puts you there. I'm originally from Colorado, but my daughter took her MFA at MICA in Baltimore, so I got to kick around there a little, and your descriptions of life around Maryland have been a nice facet of your writing for me. Thanks again.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago

I read the whole story, all 5 parts. I kind of wish I hadn’t bothered. In the first place, had the story been at all realistic it would have ended in one part. After he witnessed her going into the motel with her lover, and he later confronted her about it, she flat- out lied to his face about it and tried to convince him he was imagining things. The fact that he didn’t kick her to the curb right then indicated just how far out of the realm of reality this story goes. I like fiction, I understand fiction, but fiction so far out that it becomes totally unbelievable should be relegated to the science fiction or maybe the fantasy section. And don’t even get me started on the ending.

xtchrxtchrabout 7 years ago
A Good Writer But...!

This guy is definitely a good writer, he kept my interest in the first 2 chapters. However, this wifey did a complete turn-around from the 1st chapter. Now she is soooo sorrrry and the husband is such a great and loving guy. If he is this great and loving guy, how come she treated him like she did in the 1st chapter?......and kept seeing her lover even after she went back home?? I have a bad feeling about how this story is going, I hope I am wrong but I will keep reading.

Oh wait a minute, what about the kids, they really put the screws to him, no wonder they are at the parents. I don't blame him. Thanks for the story so far, let me get to chapter 3.

Drbeamer3333Drbeamer3333over 7 years ago

I still can't remember how this ends, but we still don't know her true motivation. On the one hand, she says some things that make her appear remorseful and human. She does turn her back on her parents and a comfortable life. On the other hand, she says some things that make her still seem ruthless and conniving. I'm not sure she really loves hubby. Very engaging. Keeps the reader guessing.

Drbeamer3333Drbeamer3333over 7 years ago

Rohypnol? I think introducing that as a means of explaining her behavior is a bit contrived.

christmas_apechristmas_apeover 7 years ago

i really got the impression that carvohi created these characters and let them write the story themselves. great author. thank you.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 8 years ago
Dam, I hate to say this so soon...

You just might be another great writer on this weird site.......cool

bill.....5

Drbeamer3333Drbeamer3333about 8 years ago
Second time through....

Still five stars. I had completely forgotten the turn this story took.

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago
WTF

It's like this is a chain story or something. Another author took the story over and has mixed in a bunch of hokum to throw us off the trail, ha ha. Not bad, Car, but a little too manipulative the way I experienced it.......ok, I will hang for one more chapter!

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago
Where Is This Going?

Your previous story was a stand alone story. There were too many things to contradict the plot line change that she became a slut/whore due to date-rape drugs and other drugs. Without the previous story, this is a plausible story. But this is a continuation of it. Sorry, but I cannot feel sorry for her. Even now she talks more about manipulating her family rather than loving them and missing their love. Her return will only split the family more. He will wind up with no alternative but to kill her. The community will rally around him. Sorry...what is RAAC and BTB

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago

You don't stay true to your characters... you change who they are to further what ever dir3ction you wish your plot to head at that present time... it's lazy writing... poorly crafted.... and your situations border on the ridiculous... he moves himself and his children out of their home and further break up the family and damaging the already fragile children by separating himself from them... th3 leslie in this chapter isn't even close to being the same character... and do all of your male characters suffer from autism. ..

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago
Your penchant for long windedness plays poorly here.

This seems like a different Leslie. And her motivations seem suspect at best. If the kids are in contact with her all the time why don't they know where she is and what she plans on doing? And it still seems ridiculous that he would leave a fragile child like Victoria (that's how you portray her) with his elderly parents. This story is hanging by a thread. This chapter, in particular, didn't seem to advance the storyline much. Get on with it.

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago
Grammar

You present a rich girl school teacher who can't use I or me correctly. It kind of ruins the picture that you paint.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
She gave her son the same name as her lover

Even if she told herself that she was naming her first child after Richard Gere. Any one who knew her from college including Richard would think it was after him. The first son is usually named after the father or a grandfather or another important person in the family's life. She chose the same name as her lover. This is not a coincidence. Unless the author is an idiot.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
Her first excuse: insanity

When she returns she tells her friend that she is going to win her man back and bag him like a deer on the hood of a hunter's car. No mention of how she would heal Francis and her children caused by abandoning them. She went to Baltimore and dated Richard. Now she says she must have been crazy. Her words created by this author. How could Francis' parents have taken her side against him?

sbrooks103sbrooks103almost 9 years ago
Fair

Too much re-hashing, too much back-story.

Re: Health Plan – I don’t claim to be an expert, and maybe there are exceptions, but in my experience health plans are either Individual or Family, to cover the kids he’d need “Family” which would automatically cover Leslie.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
The second chapter Leslie sure seems different from the first chapter. Drugs?

It might work. It appears you want to overwrite the first chapter Leslie you created, so now you introduce a drug dependency that affecter her behavior in the first chapter. It might work. But drug use is a symptom of a deeper character flaw, so you will have to be clever how you make her actions pardonable, but not make her to be a drugged up dumb shit or crack whore. Such a person would have been a shitty wife and mother from day one, and that's not what you have portrayed for her character. I look forward to see how plausibly you get out of this box.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
Just what this story needed

Congrats. Good chapter. Four out of five. Leslie's POV is exactly what this story needed. It gave me knew insight into her character and everything rang true. I'm not sure is ready to be completely truthful with Francis yet and that is the only thing that is going to work. Everything rang true about this story except that she was a teacher. That doesn't strike me as a job and upper class, privileged young woman would pick as a career. It isn't ruining the story by any means for me but it surprised me a bit. This story actually reminds me a bit of Nelson DeMille's Gold Coast and Gatehouse. The female charter in those novels had nasty rich parents too. But at least she got a trust fund. I look forward to the next chapter. Cheers Steve

ramonbrookramonbrookalmost 9 years ago
I just read chapter 1 & 2 and loved them (both 5 stars)

Now onto Leslie's first day back!

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
Are you praying to Me? Leslie my child?

"Oh please God, Jesus, I need you. I really need you. I'm not Jezebel."

Yes, you are Jezebel, Leslie. You are a whore that spread her legs after saying your vows to one another and Me. A return to your husband is unlikely, he doesn't wish for the leavings of another man.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
I ENJOY YOUR WRITING

There are plenty of reasons to strike out at a story, adult themed or other wise, but my entertainment is in reading a piece which advances and has characters in flux. I am enjoying your words.

EgoTrixiEgoTrixialmost 9 years ago
It is developing...

...in a positive kind of way I agree that something drastic has to happen; only then can Francis jump over his own shadow and consider reconcillation. Let her cut out completely with those junk-parents of hers. They love money? They consider themselves to be better human beings? She should break them down and get even at the same time: Let her sue them for supplying drugs without prescription, let them lose everything they value. Leslie has been turned into a junky by her own mother. Let her pay. Get her parents a n d her Ex-lover sued for alienantion, wrecking up her marriage or whatever. That should show Francis whether she is serious about returning or not. Not BTB but Burn The Culprits.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 9 years ago
sorry her personality doesnt bring her back, and waiting six months to act is plain stupid

and him waffling back and forth over this makes no sense, he has character and morals, she cheated, its over period. She lied to him, betrayed him, tried to deceive him, make out he was the bad guy in the situation, really what part of this indecisive husband isn't totally out of character and just plain wrong?

C_frommnC_frommnalmost 9 years ago
3 A & 3 B

Put up two chapters one BTB the other reconciliation with a Dose of humility for her Parents.

OnethirdOnethirdalmost 9 years ago
I apologize

Okay, I normally never rate a part 1, and though it was a Carhovi story and therefore among the best you'll read on this site, I didn't like the unevenness of it and only gave it a four. After reading part 2, I see that I should indeed have waited. He left bread crumbs I didn't follow; maybe not as artfully as one might, but part 2 is in many ways a virtual stand alone. It almost doesn't need part 1 at all, in my opinion. I look forward to seeing part 3, however it turns out. The drug thing is pretty odd- do people really just take random stuff and not research the effects? Maybe some do, but it is a recipe for disaster. Leslie needs to get on Medline ASAP!

sdc97230sdc97230almost 9 years ago
I think we've painted Carvohi into a corner

I have this mental image of him sitting in front of his computer with two versions of the last chapter, BTB or RAAC, tearing his hair out trying to decide which one to submit.

robt1446robt1446about 9 years ago
F..T..D..S

At least put the next chapter up. Almost 2 weeks since you loaded this one. I don't see a BTB story, but not nessasarily a reconsiliation either. Great job so far.

tazz317tazz317about 9 years ago
WHEN PEOPLE CHEAT---ITS ALWAYS A CHOICE

then comes the alibis, excuses and explanations. TK U MLJ LV NV

rcrmonte3rcrmonte3about 9 years ago
I Don't Know Where...

...this story is going, but in my mind (what's left of it) that's a good thing. The story needs at least 1, if not 2 more chapters to reach resolution. Please submit them soon. At this point, reconciliation isn't out of the picture, but it is kind of distant. Victoria really needs her mother. A BTB ending wouldn't resolve her need. However, Victoria also needs her father in the picture. Maybe--the anonys are gonna hate me for this--they lived apart (Leslie & Francis) but kept the family intact. Hmmm, that would be a different ending in LW.....

sdc97230sdc97230about 9 years ago
It's denial

She doesn't really have no idea how it happened. She doesn't have any idea that doesn't require her to face up to the fact that she doesn't deserve her husband and children and that they're all better off without her.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
2*s

This doesn't stand as an independent chapter .

Mainly it's her apologia . Her return to her children . Carvohi , how can the antagonist have no idea of her reason for her actions?? That is something a mentally ill person would do. But your description of her doesn't allow for it.The retrospection resolved nothing. No explanation for her actions.She is not mentally ill so; she cheated for revenge or because she was forced( blackmail?), or for the extreme gratification ( pleasure or money).

I am glad you like this, because I didn't and so gave you 2*s.

And those passive Baltimore in-laws, unbelievable!! Really ! Look at it's history !!

Anyway ,thanks for the story. I'm not very

AMerryMan

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
to much info

like the way you write and the story line, but just has way more commentary then needed to keep my interest

EgoTrixiEgoTrixiabout 9 years ago
Sorry...

my internet-connection destroyed me. Did not want to repeat but cannot delete it...mea culpa!

EgoTrixiEgoTrixiabout 9 years ago
I sort of sympathise with her, but...

...still, - 8 months is a time frame that makes it very hard to reconcile. Honestly, everyone makes mistakes now and then, but a mistake that lasts on for nearly a year is a problem in itself. They might come back; but in any case (and to satisfy those who seek revenge) her parents, her Ex and so-called friends who made this possible, should have to pay for their scheme in alienating that marriage.I would like to see her parents go broke over their schemes, thus bringing them back to reality! There has been a universe of dealing with illegal drugs - enough to hang them. So: Instead BTB it might be BTF (Burn the family)

EgoTrixiEgoTrixiabout 9 years ago
I sort of sympathise with her, but...

...still, - 8 months is a time frame that makes it very hard to reconcile. Honestly, everyone makes mistakes now and then, but a mistake that lasts on for nearly a year is a problem in itself. They might come back; but in any case (and to satisfy those who seek revenge) her parents, her Ex and so-called friends who made this possible, should have to pay for their scheme in alienating that marriage.I would like to see her parents go broke over their schemes, thus bringing them back to reality! There has been a universe of dealing with illegal drugs - enough to hang them. So: Instead BTB it might be BTF (Burn the family)

EgoTrixiEgoTrixiabout 9 years ago
I sort of sympathise with her, but...

...still, - 8 months is a time frame that makes it very hard to reconcile. Honestly, everyone makes mistakes now and then, but a mistake that lasts on for nearly a year is a problem in itself. They might come back; but in any case (and to satisfy those who seek revenge) her parents, her Ex and so-called friends who made this possible, should have to pay for their sceme in alienating that marriage.I would like to see her parents go broke over their scemes, thus bringing them back to reality! There has been a universe of dealing with illegal drugs - enough to hang them. So: Instead BTB it might be BTF (Burn the family)

EgoTrixiEgoTrixiabout 9 years ago
She has my sympathies (some at least)...

...still, - 8 months is a time frame that makes it very hard to reconcile. Honestly, everyone makes mistakes now and then, but a mistake that lasts on for nearly a year is a problem in itself. They might come back; but in any case (and to satisfy those who seek revenge) her parents, her Ex and so-called friends who made this possible, should have to pay for their sceme in alienating that marriage.I would like to see her parents go broke over their scemes, thus bringing them back to reality!

illjoyilljoyabout 9 years ago
5/13

It takes a BIGGER man to be able to forgive, NOT FORGET, and MOVE ON to someone DESERVING of love and fidelity

(see what I did there?)

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
the end

I hope you can put them back together. I would feel differently if she was still cheating but she appears to have learned her lesson and it takes a BIG man to be able to forgive AND FORGET

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
the end?

if you don't come up with an end I'll go nuts. I've got to know what happens.

movermoverabout 9 years ago
How many

Chapters? Saw it was a two part story, now I'm hooked. Really good so far.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
What sets this story apart for me, is the slightly more substantial than....

....vague feeling that I've watched a similar drama unfold into the real world.

It has that sense of characters as people that is rare in story-telling. The people we're reading about seem more real. We read narrative, internal dialog, interaction with friends and family, and each is unique. And through their thoughts, action and interactions, we meet their weaknesses, flaw, foibles and their failings, as well as their defining characteristics, their strengths, their nature. And you write women almost as well as you write men.

I find the 'sewing kit' references interesting. A highschool friend married a gal that eventually blew up their lives and marriage. She had a pharmacy in a large portfolio her projects (graphics art and design) were kept in. She was being supplied by her lover. She went too far and killed someone while under the influence (DUI, in that state). The whole sordid thing came out. He was devastated and ruined, she went to prison and lost her family, career and everything else that mattered to her....all for some dope and a 'hot bod'.

It will be interesting to see this play out.

Thank you.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
Close to Reality

It seems as if they all want to be reunited....but I think they may have grown past each other. How long has she been gone....a year? People move on in that amount of time. Francis may be able to put aside his alpha ego...but she abandoned him and her children to shack up with another man. In Francis's world loyalty is everything and Leslie stepped all over it. He might love her but is probably not in love with her any longer. I see her pursuing him but the magic is gone and the world turns. Nothing can be the same. Good luck.

5x5

chytownchytownabout 9 years ago
Thanks***

For sharing.

sdc97230sdc97230about 9 years ago
Anger won't be enough

No matter how angry you get at someone, it's still a temporary state of emotion. Eventually it passes, or you just get too tired to maintain it, and you start to come down from it. What Leslie needs to do is recognize that her parents are unalterably toxic to her marriage, her family and to her own emotional well being, and then commit to permanently cutting them totally out of her life in favor of her husband and children. Like any recovering addict, one little taste of them and she'll start the downward slide toward becoming the daughter they want her to be again.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
This is really a great story

I think the author has poured his heart and soul into this very realistic tale.

This part is really atmospheric and conveys exactly the emotions involved in an attempt at regaining someone's attention and possibly more.

Whatever she has done, this is an awesome account of the fear and torture she is going through to try and reverse the damage she has done.

Whatever anyone else says Carvohi, you are portraying very realistic emotions in presenting this.

Thank you - 5 *s.

RedPillRedPillabout 9 years ago

Others have pointed out some of the difficulty reconciling the manipulative bitch of chapter 1 with the (at least somewhat) penitent wife of chapter 2. I think sdc97230 does the most plausible job of explaining this.

Leslie is well-educated, and seems at times fairly intelligent (the two don't always go together). However, at other times she's lacking in self awareness, and can be very dense. For example, seemingly not realizing what Richard did to her with the drugs both in college and recently? Pretty dang clueless. I will say that the drug addiction can help with explaining some of her stupidity. My wife was on prescription drugs for years, and while at times depressed and anxious, was not incoherent. However, at a certain point, she became manic and very much lost touch with reality. This can happen to people who are normally quite intelligent, and can greatly affect attitude as well. Anger and arrogance can manifest to a much greater degree than normal for the person. I'm not sure that I'm 100% sold, but between her upbringing and the drugs I'm willing to consider it.

If there is to be a chance for them to reconcile, she needs to do more than just want it or be determined. As others have noted, she really needs to get off the drugs, get counseling, really change her life. Plus, as sdc97230 noted, she'll have to decide if she wants her marital family or her family of origin. To quote him: "And she'll need to cut her parents totally out of her life for good, the way that recovering addicts have to cut themselves off from people who are still using." Couldn't agree more. She's shown that she can at times go against their advice and thinking, but where is the anger for all the years of them not supporting her marriage, and in fact actively subverting it? She needs to be angry enough to leave them in her past.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
I am only sorry for her

I am sorry for the neighbor widow woman with kid she lost her husband and next she lost a second husband possibility...............

sdc97230sdc97230about 9 years ago
Leslie's drug use

Misuse of prescription drugs is America's biggest drug problem, killing more people each year than heroin and cocaine combined. There's nothing in the story that suggests that Francis supported Leslie's drug habit and her "sewing kit," or even knew that she was using, apart from the drug she was prescribed for narcolepsy that he speculated might have helped prevent the auto accident. Leslie appears to have been a "functioning addict," in that her drug use doesn't seem to have ever caused her to behave noticeably out of character to those around her.

CHIMPY_GCHIMPY_Gabout 9 years ago
Great story

The author usually gives little hints along the way but I have no idea on this one, reconciliation or not. Can't wait to see!

bruce22bruce22about 9 years ago
Long time between Chapters

I had a senior moment and had to go back and read chapter one. Then I remembered that I hated Leslie and felt very frustrated by Francis. He seemed very slow on the take but completely innocent.

After the road trip I understand Leslie better and realize she is a victim as well as an obnoxious, cheating bitch. If Francis had known the details of her background before marrying they would have had a chance. Now I feel sorry for both of them but do not think that a reconciliation would be a good thing...

honeylicker1124honeylicker1124about 9 years ago
Thought this might be the end...

but I'm glad we have something to look forward to. I kind of got bored during the drive back home. All the events in Leslie's past life didn't really add to the story, but some did. Certain the drugs will be a major issue that she will need to deal with. Seems like the kids probably want her back. It's just getting Francis to come around. It seems he has a stubborn streak in him. I'd say can't come back as the sultry seductress, but as a meek, repentant woman who finally recognizes her place in life, and her own self worth isn't what she thought it was.

I usually like the BTB endings, but I think forgiveness is in order here, though as you say, it may take another year. Leslie has to gain Francis' trust, because of the deep hurt, and that doesn't happen over night.

My vote is to bring them back together, and with that, I end my comment with 5 *'s.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
Thanks

I really enjoyed the first two parts, and anxiously await the third installment. Glad you're having fun doing it, as I'm sure that your joy in your work will reward the readers when published.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
5*

just reading, watching and waiting,

Sometimes, endings justify journeys.

We'll see.

carvohicarvohiabout 9 years agoAuthor
To the anon immediately above this comment...

Am I taking votes? Yes, in a way. Leslie and Francis part three is well outlined and partly written, but I wanted to wait and read peoples' comments. I want to tell the best story I can, and I've seen in the past with other stuff I missed the boat because I jumped in before I got any outside ideas. Due to that Leslie and Francis are about a week away.

Also I want to thank everyone for their comments. I've only deleted one nasty comment so far, and, though it was anonymous, I know who wrote it.

And one last note; the story has covered about a year so far, and I expect it will cover at least that much more time. One comment writer acknowledged time heals wounds. If there is to be a reconciliation, and that's not guaranteed, Francis will need time reflect and Leslie will need to find a way to 'fess up'.

I'm having a lot of fun with Leslie as I work through part three. Please be patient.

LickideesplitLickideesplitabout 9 years ago
Ascendence of Carvohi

Carvohi is a bit (or maybe more) verbose, including (unnecessary) redundancy, BUT he presents First-Class tales.

Hubby is way too much a Boy Scout, as he himself admits early on! Sweetie's fall from grace is, at this point in the tale, mysterious. She was (plenty long enough) removed from her parents' influence. Mr. Boy Scout's support of her drug habit is a significant out-of-character deviance!

5*. Eagerly awaiting further development!

sdc97230sdc97230about 9 years ago
Richard and the parents

Leslie says that Richard never told her why he came back to Baltimore. My guess is that their meeting again and the resulting affair was all orchestrated by her parents. All three of them need to be toasted to a crisp, and the best way to do it would be to somehow deprive them of their wealth and status and leave them living in a trailer park somewhere in southern Appalachia.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
Are you taking votes?

I'm for reconciliation: Francis & Leslie need each other, and Victoria needs them both. But she's never said 'no' to Richard and she's going to have to figure out how, and do it soon and often.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
what to do about richard

what to do about Richard and her parents. he knew she was married. but then he did find out she was "ripe for the picking". so punish him or leave him alone? the parents need to receive some grief. grief that they really feel. hope you read these comments and use some of the ideas presented. thanks for 2 really fine chapters. waiting for #3

SplitAcesSplitAcesabout 9 years ago
P.S.

Richard should pay dearly for what he's did to Francis.

SplitAcesSplitAcesabout 9 years ago
I hated part 1

Now, thanks to your unveiling of Leslie I believe there is hope for her if she can get her shit together. The thing to remember is that Francis doesn't have the advantage of knowing Leslie's thoughts like we do; and she has destroyed his trust in her. When I think back to part 1, and how I felt about her then; I have to say her chances don't look good.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
getting interesting

carvohi has fixed most of the problems with the inconsistencies of the wife's behavior in the first story here. The story is also setup to go in any direction from here so well done on that point. I particularly like the way we're left with the conflicting emotions on the part of a several of the important characters. I hope carvohi fells free to conclude any way he feels like. It doesn't have to be btb if he doesn't feel like it.

Richie4110Richie4110about 9 years ago
Love the story line

I look forward to the rest of the story. I gave it a 4* for now. My final vote and comment will be my ultimate feelings for your effort.

Thanks.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
Time heals all wounds

Good story. They both need help him for a broken heart and ego. Her for never growing up. She behaves like High School student not a middle age fully grown up adult. Time to grow up.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
She cheated

It's that simple. It's over. This is bullshit twisting of things to make it seem like it's something forgivable. It's not. She ought to be flayed alive for what she's done.

1 star

Pappy7Pappy7about 9 years ago
Not bad,

well written and does hold your interest. As I have said before, I like your writing style, though I do think you tend to emasculate your males somewhat by making them think they can't live without the woman who cheated on them. But in this case I think you called it right. A different direction from the first chapter and the male lead is still holding his mud, so to speak and bravo for that.

Hopefully not a reconciliation coming up, she did show absolute disdain for him in chapter one, going so far as to gloat over the fact that she ruined his evidence and she did talk the kids into video taping him in his own house. Which leads me to the realization that maybe he should have paid closer attention to how the unfaithful bitch was raising his kids and the crap that she was filling their heads with. But ultimately they are the ones responsible for the betrayal of their father. If they would have been my kids they would have had harder asses and softer heads. The first definitely leads to the second.

She was more than aggressive and she was less than honest and now she claims she was on dope. I think that to take your word for how she acted, by her own description would be too simplistic. I think you are writing this with enough wiggle room for us to jump to our own conclusions about the direction of their relationship and then you are going to go in a completely different direction on us. Tried to give you 4 stars on this one but the rating site jumped and all you got was a 3 and I am sorry for that.

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