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Calico75Calico7523 days ago

A lovely if tragic story. Well written. Excellent character development. It is sad how easily we judge each other without walking a mile in their shoes.

TrainerOfBimbosTrainerOfBimbosabout 1 month ago

This got a 4 instead of a 5 because you didn't write Connie's letter for us to read. You may think it's not an important detail to understand the what/why/who of what she did, but I think it puts the entire framing of the story and relationship and her death into context.

lc69hunterlc69hunterabout 2 months ago

He was an ass. He didn't need to remain married to her, but the fucker did kill her because was a little boy and ran and hid, rather than be a man and have the conversation

SteelPaperTSteelPaperTabout 2 months ago

How typical that the male victim of cheating gets the blame, while the female cheater gets support. The son is quite correct in his assesment there, every woman is just an affair-in-waiting

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 months ago

Eff that cunty daughter of his, i'd cut her off completely and find someone new

FlamethrowFlamethrow2 months ago

An excellent story, with lots to think about contained in its pages. I am glad that one of the two older children came to their senses

JBird11JBird112 months ago

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

Buster2UBuster2U2 months ago

10 Big Blazing Stars, great story, great writing, Great ending. Thanks, Buster2U

GrendelrexGrendelrex3 months ago

Great story, 5 stars easy.

NallusNallus3 months ago

Damn good story, very real.

I've read hundreds in loving wives category and write a lot on my own. It flows well and keeps your attention

Thank you!

Also, it's great to see paragraph breaks and the right places.

Madeira1076Madeira10764 months ago

I don't understand why a lot of authors make men out to be such pussies?

1, he couldn't even talk to her for 2 months? What a wuss.

He needed a year to get his shit together? What a wuss.

He couldn't even read the letter she sent like told her to do? What a wuss.

He did man up with the kids.

The wife; Whats her deal. She can fuck around on her husband but freaks when caught? If she loved her husband that much to commit suicide, she would not have cheated.

I know, fantasy and all that.... Even fantasy has rules.

AnonymousAnonymous4 months ago

"Marc, I invited Megan here because she has something she wants to say to you. I knew that you wouldn't invite her so I did. I know that I'm only a guest in your home but if you want me to keep being a guest then you'll sit right here and listen to her."

Thanks for confirming that you’re a manipulative bitch. Get out, and take my ex-daughter with you!!!

ZK

AnonymousAnonymous5 months ago

Well at least she had the good sense to kill herself and not be a bother anymore. She get points for that at least. Doesn't undo the cheating or the hurt she caused, but it's something. I respect that. Some will say that's cold; so is cheating on the person you claim to love and who has loved you for 25 years and inflicting a cruel betrayal on them akin to the most painful torture. That's life I suppose. Connie was the real coward in the story; she took the easy way out because she couldn't deal with the consequences of her cruel and selfish actions.

Her daughter Megan sounded like a cheater waiting to happen. Although if she learns from this lesson and keeps it in mind, there is yet hope for her. Her son is probably also in the same boat. The other daughter seems fine although fate likes irony it seems, so maybe she'll end up being the sluttiest of them all.

Oh turns out I was right about the son. Shocker. I still wonder why Connie would do that after 25 years of marriage. I assume it's one of the usual reasons though and that's probably why it didn't get mentioned. Kinda sad really. My guess is she had a weak moment, he made her feel special in her somewhat dull life, the thrill of it made it hot, didn't think anyone would find out, etc. Cliché much? Well I wonder how special she felt when she was downing those pills on the way out. Food for thought.

acs963acs9635 months ago

Tugs at the heart

AnonymousAnonymous5 months ago

only two of the literotica stories I have read brought me to tears. This is a wonderful story…and is one of them. Thank you

l0ver0tical0ver0tica5 months ago

I like anonymous's "'Hi, Dad.' DOOR SLAM" ending...

AnonymousAnonymous5 months ago

Suicide took it in a weird direction. Am assuming she caved to a blackmail threat after early affair for some time. Stupid to cave to extramarital sex to cover up prior extramarital sex. Smdh.

oksideshow859419oksideshow8594196 months ago

Awe how touching but I did enjoy the story it's well written and I think it ended on a good note

🙉🙊🙈💨🫣

AnonymousAnonymous7 months ago

Nice story but the ending,

Megan was a lying bitch she knew the truth, but wrecked her fathers life anyway. He should have kicked her out after hearing her lame reasons as that is what they are. And told her never return, and then kick out Alicia as she had no right,

I hope her husband cheats on her, then see if she well be as understanding

AnonymousAnonymous8 months ago

What an amzing number of experts in human relationships among the many commentators. Even more amazing is they don't all agree.

Oatmeal1969Oatmeal19698 months ago

nice story of tragedy striking while the husband was trying to come to terms with the cheating. Only wish we knew why she cheated while we had the chance... and maybe some real revenge against the other man.

AnonymousAnonymous8 months ago

"Hi, Dad."

DOOR SLAM

That's my ending, you can use it if you'd like to

AnonymousAnonymous8 months ago

I can understand him not wanting to know the details of Connie’s affair. Hearing her confession/justification for being a cheating slut is not something that would make it right or make him feel any better it would only serve as unloading her conscience to feel better while further destroying him. Megan pushing for instant reconciliation and acting like infidelity is okay should have been challenged be asking her if was okay for her husband to have an affair. Stuart believing everyone cheats and it is okay is not something you can counter any other way than cutting the person out of your life. Considering how Megan and Stuart convinced everyone Connie made a little mistake, Marc should have stood u at the funeral and out Connie’s six month affair and John as the reason they were separated.

When Marc had to go on the book tour he could have insisted on not going to his hometown at all for fear of his safety as most of the town and 2 of kids blamed him for Connie’s suicide. Since he did the signing in his hometown, everyone that turned against him should have received just a signature, no generic messages and definitely no personalized messages.

When Alicia butted into his business and invited Megan to his house without permission and basically told him make amends with Megan or she would dump him, Marc should have said “I loved you but since that is no longer the case you and Megan can leave together.”

Alicia’s constant meddling in Marc’s life; sharing the book with her son in publishing, and forcing him to reunite with Megan ruins the story for me. The reconciliation more so then sharing his story without permission as she threatened to dump him.

Texican1830Texican18308 months ago

Guess I’ll never understand men who can’t listen to the confession. The act has occurred/been occurring- what’s lost by learning the who, what, and why? Flight or fight is an immediate reaction, yes - it’s how we protect ourselves. But after weeks it becomes cowardice- not facing something doesn’t make it go away, it makes the wound fester and decay.

Good storyline but I’m not a fan of turning on his kids. He WAS responsible for her death and the loss of two of his kids. Had he grown some balls and faced her down, things could have turned out differently.

Merlin_the_MagicianMerlin_the_Magician8 months ago

Much better than the dumb cuckhold who couldn’t catch his cheating.loved the story. Well written and very well edited. Keep up the good work. MtM

AnonymousAnonymous9 months ago

Been quitting reading a lot of stories lately.

Shit again!

He wallows in his misery instead of finding out details. Lengthy affair? Et? Planning and execution after knowing then going on with life. Another wimp

AnonymousAnonymous9 months ago

Alicia butting into his business would be a deal-breaker for me.

AnonymousAnonymous9 months ago

A natural death is well natural and has no effect on the reader. When someone is killed because of some occurrence in the story it sort of kills the story for me.

AnonymousAnonymous9 months ago

This was a good realistic tale.Done smoothly,no contradictions or the author losing control of the story with mix ups..Well done RADK..I dare say ANY husband/MAN would have done/taken the same or similar actions..maybe quicker to finalise dumping her..Not so sure I would have been as gracious towards eldest daughter at the end as you had your MC. I definitely would have had a talk with Alicea about inviting Meagan to the house without my consent, even though the result was beneficial...4 stars..4 stars...JZK

AnonymousAnonymous10 months ago

I agree with Anon two months ago. The husband in the story was a jerk. The story took an arc that was, essentially, unrealistic. But the writing was capable. Four stars.

JPB

woodwardwoodward10 months ago

Very well done!

AnonymousAnonymous10 months ago

Very disappointing ending! Even if it offends his girlfriend, kick the bitch out! (And the girlfriend is she argues). The senior bitch deserved to die and took pills hoping someone would “save” her. Goes to prove there is a god.

AnonymousAnonymous10 months ago

I get why the MC didn't want to hear his wife's explanation for her affair but we the readers absolutely did even if it turned out to be a steaming pile of BS. It was integral to the story yet we were left in the dark. I've read some comments hinting at blackmail but unless I missed something important there was no actual suggestion of any such thing. All of this conjecture just highlights why Connie's version of events needed to be aired and why the story felt incomplete without it.

Vegetable lasagne? Really? I'll take Faye's real lasagne every time!

AnonymousAnonymous11 months ago

Thanks that was great! Even after the lowest of lows life can be wonderful again!

AnonymousAnonymous11 months ago

Honestly it isn't wrong for a child to want their parents to reconcile. Talking about Megan. Stuart was an unmitigated ass. But telling others that he was at fault for her suicide is just wrong. Clearly Connie had mental issues though her committing suicide does lend credence to the reason why she continued for six months, while not clearly specified, sounded like blackmail. However a prior poster stated, blackmail sex with threat of reveal of extramarital sex is just dumb. Come clean. Defang the blackmailer. Besides she had reverse leverage on the neighbor. Sounded like she was dumb. Besides if they did this on and off while he was at his father's house helping him out, then she had to be reporting this to the predator to rendezvous at the hotel. So something fishy going on. Sad tale of betrayal and loss. Megan was immature and delusional. She got better.

AnonymousAnonymous12 months ago

Sad story. Interesting how the details of the wife's affair had no real impact. All we know is was for six months and with an old neighbor on a semi regular basis, meaning whenever he spent the day with his father. Speculation but sounded like she did something stupid like get seduced and caught up in some dumb blackmail scheme (blackmail extramarital sex where the leverage is prior extramarital sex is dumb). But who knows. He had no right to be hurt and pissed. He didn't pull the trigger on their marriage or her suicide. Not sure how you reconcile a si, month long affair anyways even if their were some "stupid" circumstances. Stuart was an asshole. Megan was immature. Faye was cool.

kirei8kirei8about 1 year ago

Why you did not reveal the details of the affair through the letter would have made a big difference in my understanding of the events. If it was fly by night lust, blackmail, pity, empathy, etc. would be the deciding factor of "fuck her she got what she deserved" or "what an asshole he was". It's all in the details, man.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

“I never got over what Connie did to me and what I did to her. I now saw that we were both to blame”

He didn’t do anything to her, and the only blame that was attached to him is that he didn’t take decisive action against her immediately!

ZK

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

Have no respect for men (you wrote him this way)who cry and whine instead of immediately facing the situation and planning etc. Maybe military and Vietnam. BUT I always hope they just curl up in ball and stay out of the way. Any decision is better than none. That's what gets you and those around Dead

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

Husband was a jerk. When he learned of how depressed wife was H should have tried to force himself to talk to her and help her and foreseen the possibility of the suicide. The ommission of the details of the wife's affair was in my opinion a mistake.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

Bogus blame spreading regarding the suicide and the fem/Dom relationship with Alicia ("I invited her and you talk or I leave) gets a 1.

TajfaTajfaabout 1 year ago

Ok, he was hurt, devastated, and divorce was the initial reaction. However, as a human being and having been married for so long, surely he would want to know why she did it? Even if he had waited a few days and sat down with her to hear her excuses then tell her that he was so devastated by her actions that there was no chance for them. I know I wanted to know why she did it. A seemingly great marriage and she decides to screw her old neighbour. Maybe it was going on before they moved. Then, the way he treated his kids, who also loved their mother and wanted the family back together was dreadful. Obviously this is a high scoring story but it could have been even better.

dirtyoldbimandirtyoldbimanabout 1 year ago

2nd reading for me. Excellent story

Diecast1Diecast1about 1 year ago

A great story, love it. AAAAAA++++++

underdog1underdog1about 1 year ago

Excellent read, I love the ones who love to tear apart someones work but dont have the balls to leave their signature. To me it was a realistic story that I could actually see happen, not this she left for a smaller dick,but more money shit, and then I hit the lottery and married Angelina Jolie.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

Marc is an ass who absolutely killed his wife. He is yet another typical LW husband : rigid, moralistic, self-pitying, uncommunicative, emotionally immature and unavailable. What his wife did was absolutely wrong, and maybe they should have ended up divorced. But when you have been married that long, you owe it to your spouse to communicate, to understand, and yes, even forgive. Forgiveness does NOT mean acceptance, it does NOT mean forgetting, and it does NOT mean trusting the cheater ever again. But “forsaking all others” does NOT outweigh “forgive us our trespasses”, and Marc forgot that Jesus on the cross forgave his executioners. Marc was absolutely wrong, and indeed was deeply unchristian, in the way he handled his wife’s betrayal. To write a 987 page book attempting to justify his behavior is a perfect example illustrating his deep subconscious guilt - “methinks he doth protest too much” indeed.

TangomoreTangomoreabout 1 year ago

One of the best stories I've read here on Lit!

NitpicNitpicabout 1 year ago
Why

Why didn't he get revenge on his wife's lover,once he knew who he was.?

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

Any man who’d tell his children that they’re dead to him isn’t worth thinking about let alone reading about.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

The cheater’s why?………….very simple……..because they want to fuck some strange. R.H.

ChopinesqueChopinesqueabout 1 year ago

A thought or two, provoked by the story. (1) The wronged spouse was not presented as being in any way at fault for the affair. That and a lot else was deliberately left blank by the author.

Forgiveness cannot be demanded or commanded, except by God. You can't exactly "earn" it either. Bringing someone who's been wronged down to the culprit's level, as so often happens in other LW stories, isn't a good solution; that just makes everyone equally wretched. So what about forgiveness, as it might have been in this story?

It has to voluntarily offered by the one who's hurt, who's wronged. That's not easy. It means forgoing revenge on the one forgiven. In this story the wronged spouse struggled to get by his hurt and sense of offense. Time ran out before he could open communications again. That might happen, but was it his fault, or just a cruel fate? His friends and two of his three children condemning him was something which could happen in a real-life situation. That wasn't his fault either. Acknowledgement of fault, contrition appropriate to the depth of the hurt, and living out a changed life don't "earn" forgiveness, but might make it easier. Soap box put away. Good LW stories are good character studies in the face of extreme stress, after all the mysteries are uncovered. I think that's what makes them most interesting.

WetheNorthWetheNorthabout 1 year ago

"What she did doesn't matter, she's your mother."

Where do writers get this BS from

Cito22Cito22about 1 year ago

very good and well written story

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

Read this story several times. It’s realy good.

CriosCriosover 1 year ago

Unlike some of the other commenters, I don't believe he ever forgave Connie. He did forgive Megan but I'm not sure I could've been that strong. She was an adult who knew what she was doing when she turned everyone against her father. In many ways, it was a greater betrayal than Connie's because unlike Connie's, Megan's actions were intended to inflict pain. Radk was (is?) a master at delving deep into the emotional pain of betrayal. This story was one of his best.

woodwardwoodwardover 1 year ago

Wow. Did the other readers read the same story I just did? It was well done and focused on the main character and what he was going through. It is just a story folks and the author put in the work to write it.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

1, for the comment about the "california lifestyle". I've been married 51 years, and live in a large neighborhood, there is no california lifestyle here, are there people in california who fuck around, yes, but people fuck around everywhere. Dont demean us with stupidity.

xhristianjxhristianjover 1 year ago

This prick was going to take his Wife back typical Cuckold😂

xhristianjxhristianjover 1 year ago

Hahahaha Oh God that's hilarious he decided to sit down with the old whore and she kills herself😳😂

MasterKoteMasterKoteover 1 year ago

Usually I'd like the details or more info but I honestly don't care or need to know more of why Connie cheated or for how long. The story is about the impact or consequences cheating has to the loved ones after they find out. She took her own life because she was selfish and couldn't deal with her actions and guilt Again, I hate time limits on reconciliation otherwise great story.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

For dark2donut: Connie wasn't simplified, she just never got a chance to shine. The author left her out, no perspective, and no meaningful dialogue. This is a solid story in that it stays in ONE perspective ONLY. Just like real life, we aren't privy to the thoughts of others. She wrote a letter, and the husband read it. The story COULD have disclosed the letter to us, but chose not to. Was that a good choice? I have no idea. From what little the husband states, the letter sounded like 1 part remorse, and 3 parts excuses. So maybe that's why it wasn't included. There is rarely a good reason to cheat. He was willing to met her halfway with the letter, and later went even BEYOND that by attempting to contact her face-to-face. But she up and self-yeeted. Cuz she's a weak coward. No one forced her to have an affair, and no one forced her to commit suicide. She seems like a deeply written character, but it's not explored. She's the villain. Betrayal does that.

Stuart is written as an impressionable young man, that slowly slid into depravity. Guys like him exist. It's not that your assessments are wrong, but they are off-base. The author could have absolutely fleshed these characters out, and gotten a better story. Sure. I'v seen authors do what you asked, and do it poorly...and ruin the story. Sometimes less is more.

And never under-estimate neighbors burning desire to gossip about others. It's crude, but an addictive vice. Even at funerals. In any case, it seems megan and stuart accosted the neighbors to create the gossip, so you're not wrong on that count either. The only thing megan was good for is the grand babies. I don't see the main character actually forgiving his daughter. He seems hesitant even at the end. I think he agreed mentally to tolerate her in order to be with his grand kids, and I can't fault the man for that.

dark2donut2dark2donut2over 1 year ago

Zero character explanation for "Connie", awful simplification on "Stuart" character and the last two pages are what I call effeminate writing (i.e., for chicks) without much if any plot. Turnaround on "Megan" is also a typical sugary lemonade style.

There are some heavy exaggerations like hateful comments during funeral. Really? If you have ever been to any funeral you would know that most of participants only want for ceremony to end and they are hardly in mood to draw attention to themselves.

Not much.

TajfaTajfaover 1 year ago

I agree with wargamer and others about the missing part of this tale. They had a perfect marriage so what drove her to cheat? The lack of anything about the why lets this very well written story down. So 4 stars from me.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

Great story that I enjoyed. LP

usaretusaretover 1 year ago

I enjoyed it the first time, but much more the second time.

WargamerWargamerover 1 year ago

Nice story, a little sad yes, but a nice story.

I would’ve liked to find out why Connie cheated, that you did not tell us. It was that missing piece of the puzzle that cost you a point

4/5

CaptainbklCaptainbklover 1 year ago

Great story. Good writing and flowed well.

Comparing cheating to stealing a tool, in order to sell and buy a dress for your spouse, is just down right stupid.

kirei8kirei8over 1 year ago

Connie went into the affair with the expectation of being forgiven if it came to light. Since the reader wasn't privy to the why, one can only assume things not in fact. I didn't like that the author did this; this was a wife so in love with her husband she comitted suicide either because of the pain and suffering she caused him or because she did not want to live without him. She didn't even take her children into account. So the WHY is extremely important to give the story credence. And we did not get it!

dirtyoldbimandirtyoldbimanalmost 2 years ago

2nd reading for me and well worth the time, thanks for writing this. Still trying to understand his stance on never talking to her again or answering her letter without starting divorce proceedings.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 2 years ago

"The biggest unresolved issue was the extent of my responsibility for Connie's ingesting those sleeping pills. I didn't put them in her hand and force her swallow them but I sure as hell helped to create her depressed emotional state by refusing to talk to her."

This is just blame shifting pure and simple. Connie cheated and was the author all her own problems. She never took responsibility for her shitty decisions and bad behavior and shattering her husband with her cheating and betrayal. She was self-center and entitled to the bitter end. People cheat because they give themselves permission to cheat — and that’s a matter of character. or rather a lack of character. Connie was an entitled cheater who felt she was entitled to reconciliation and forgiveness. You’re not obliged to honor a broken contract. You don’t owe a cheater reconciliation. Cheaters who assume reconciliation is their right and due fail to understand the gravity of the offense. Connie never once thought about the pain and agony that her husband was going through. She only cared about her feelings.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 2 years ago

Thanks for a beautiful story about having your heart ripped out.

Ed

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 2 years ago

Awesome story! I loved the reconciliation with his daughter! Alicia was indeed a keeper.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 years ago

Quit

He totally opposite of my idea of man.

Told she was pulling out of motel and ignored.

Then had total meltdown.

Then blamed everyone But himself when had not bothered to get all the facts. Forgiveness? BUT at least how long, episodes etc. And get both. Two to tango

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 years ago

Uh?!

She cheated he completely lost it?!

Maybe military Vietnam etc but can't understand that. Want All the facts and then make decisions

Don't hide head in sand etc

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 years ago

sucks, his new would be lifetime love stabbed him in the back. I would have quietly wandered back home and left the others stewing in their juices. People - women - think oh we are so very sorry so get over it.

I would have dumped the whole bunch of them.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 years ago

Strange story. I was particularly annoyed with Alicia blind-siding him with Megan and threatening to abandon him if he didn't comply. You'd think he would have had enough with these attempted manipulations.

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

Well written story. Read it several times in the past months. 5*

mattenwmattenwover 2 years ago

This is an impressively well-told story. You portrayed your characters very convincingly. I could almost feel the many emotions. I liked that very much. And all without sex, bravo! 5*!!!

CriosCriosover 2 years ago

And, oh yeah...I'll ask again. Does anyone know if this author is still with us or how to reach him to convince him to write again?

CriosCriosover 2 years ago

Loved the story! Like many of the author's works, it has a dark side to it.

We're all flawed in some way. That's what makes this story, to me at least, believable and engaging. I see the comments about how he should have been strong and not cried and spoken to her but not a single comment about the cheating bitch not being strong enough to "hold on" until he was ready to talk. In my mind, he wasn't responsible for her death. She was weak in more ways than one. Any sympathy for her from me died the instant the MC revealed that the bastard she was screwing was even at their anniversary party. Damn cold of her - she deserved what she got.

Schwanze1Schwanze1over 2 years ago

By the way, old retrievers don't hassle young retrievers. It's the opposite.

Schwanze1Schwanze1over 2 years ago

Helluva story but why are LW women like Alicia such bossy bitches fucking with their men's lives without asking permission? Jimh67, you are a dumbass. His wife cheated. He was done. End of story. Suicide is cowardice. Stay here and deal with the issues.

jimh67jimh67over 2 years ago

Marc was too weak and immature to face his problem like an adult, so instead he ran away. He deserved all the crap he got.

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

Connie should have known after 25 years how he would emotionally retreat if her affair came to light. Hasn't his father taught him to not show emotions? This is quite common amongst men who have been raised in quite traditional surroundings. Not everyone has the capability to manage situations in the way which caters to the needs of those involved. At a certain point grownups have to bear the consequences the of their doings. I would have been inclined to give 5*. However, the why of Connie's affair was never disclosed, therefore"only" 4*.

woodwardwoodwardover 2 years ago

I sampled some of the comments on your story and found them totally missing the point of the character. They seemed to go along the lines that men should not cry a loss, that he put the pills in her hand, he was an ass. Total BS. Who of us outside of the characters in these stories are truly prepared to deal with this situation, all the what I would do if that happened does not include the cloud of pain, emotional impact of BEING in the situation. Great story and I found the character very believable.

fredbrownfredbrownover 2 years ago

No, just no. I don't like Marc, I think Alicia ought to avoid him at all cost because little Marcie with his stiff neck and obstinant pride will sour everything around him. I don't understand how his book, if truthful - could be a hit or how it could convince his ex-friends that he was not as vile as they originally thought. My sympathies to Connie ......

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

Well written but the hero was an ass. He didn't have to forgive but he could have set her free in a humane way. She killed herself in large part because of her guilt reinforced by his silence and bitterness,

someoneothersomeoneotherover 2 years ago

Second comment: I am still wrestling with what it is that Marc could have written that would get publisher interested, much less make the NYT list? Marc was such a pathetic loser that he never even talked to his wife to have her say and explanation. Nobody wants to read about another husband wallowing in self-pity, particularly given that he was instrumental in his wife's suicide. His story strikes me as self-indulgent and an attempt at exoneration rather then anything anyone would want to read. I like the author's writing style, it is just the lack of insight and the superficial overlay of an weak soul.

someoneothersomeoneotherover 2 years ago

Story is well-written, but I did not like the content. I don't like men who get depressed and cry a lot. Shit happens, and deal with it. In this case, the author took a cheap shot by having Marc refuse to talk to his wife, and so author did not have to address the hardest part of any of these stories, and that is why the wife did what she did. For all we know, it was Marc's failing that cause the cheating -- probably not, but we will never know because the author cheated us of that opportunity.

Pasqual_ClementePasqual_Clementealmost 3 years ago

My thoughts on this nicely written story.

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While Marc's pain in learning about Connie's violation of their Wedding Vows is very understandable, he did, metaphorically, put those pills in her hand. By allowing the emotional wound to fester, it only got worse. I am not saying that they would or even should have reconciled, but at least there would have been closure, an ending. If he had she could very well still be alive. Losing a mother, when the father could have prevented it, even if he did not realize the seriousness of the situation, could, very well, be considered a betrayal to a son/daughter.

By not really talking in-depth about how he was feeling Megan and Stuart could not know his version. Megan admits to not knowing his side of things. She should not have had to learn about his side of things from a book. Why should have Marc talked, at least to his children? Because extra-marital affairs and divorce affect the whole family and not just the spouses. Marc mentioned helping Stuart with getting his Eagle Badges. Presumably, he tried to teach him the values that go with those badges. It seems. to me, that by avoiding confronting Connie he is not facing problems/issues, which would be something one would teach. It seems to me this would be a case of do as I say not as I do.

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I have issues with Alicia's violating Marc's confidence. He did not give Alicia permission to show his manuscript to anyone else. He let her read it so that she could learn about him. I think, by letting her son read it and then him having two others read it, without his permission is an act of betrayal. Same could be said about her inviting Megan to visit with telling Marc about it. She and Connie seemed to share the idea what she wants/thinks is what's best and to heck with the consequences. Admittedly, what Alicia actions were not as egregious as what Connie did, but the mind set seems similar.

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Finally, is it legal to write about someone else, that is not a celebrity or historical person, without their permission. I imagine that what Marc wrote when talking about Stuart and Megan, may not have been complimentary. So would not their release be needed before publication of the novel? I do not know if that is a necessary or not, but am under the impression that it could be. But under what circumstances it would be required, I do not know.

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All that being said, this still was good solid story. A sad one, but a good one. Thank-you

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Pasqual

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 3 years ago

Good on Marc for not listening to Connie. The need to explain is all the cheater’s. The desire to have the cheated one listen to an "explanation" is not that, but a desire of the cheater to find a way to be forgiven and forgiven quite regardless of what the cheater did. That way cannot be provided through talk: cheating cannot be explained. The only effect that listening to an explanation has is to amplify the damage. The cheater’s need to explain is a continuation of the desire to project out the guilt, the blame, the responsibility for the cheater’s actions upon the audience, to make them responsible for finding a way through. It is an attempt to validate the self-centered point of view that justified the destructive behavior of cheating in the first place and a continuation of the behavior to more directly include all of those hurt by the cheating. The immediate pleas made by those others that the cheated one “sit down and talk” with the cheater for “closure” is a demand that the destructive effects of the explanations (upon them) be stopped.

The theme of disrespecting the male in a relationship continues with Alicia. It is far and away the shared opinion of LW authors that males deserve to be disrespected. It is their lot in life. Some try to explore why this is so, but most vie to find more and more imaginative ways to portray it. Disrespect of others is one of the primary stumbling blocks for Western society. Maybe an LW author will show a way beyond it.

LWlurker

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 3 years ago

Not bad until the end:

"All right, since the two of you aren't going to say anything I'll do it," Alicia said with a gruff tone. "Marc, I invited Megan here because she has something she wants to say to you. I knew that you wouldn't invite her so I did. I know that I'm only a guest in your home but if you want me to keep being a guest then you'll sit right here and listen to her."

The correct answer to that is "buh-BYE." "Girlfriend" does not equal "Mom" No wonder his wife cheated on him, he's a wuss.

Huedogg2Huedogg2almost 3 years ago

good story, should be a lesson for adult kids.....stay out of the fight

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 3 years ago

1. The son of the main character has one part of the truth. The minimum one extramarital event for life time for a spouse is 55-60%. However it is extrem interesting that, 85% of the people think the FAITHFULNESS is important for a mate. The unbilevible avalanch of the cuck stories in the LOVING WIVES also show the HIGH IMPORTANANCE of the FAITHFULNESS, because the cuck husbands must be faithfull and the wives can have many extramarital activities. Funny, but the cheaters (similar to the hot wives in the cuck stories) want faithful husbands, who forgive everithing. Connie got a surprise, her husband also was in the 85% of the people.

The cheating and the cuck stories talk about the lack of the HUMAN EQUALITY, the one of the spouses is free for everything the other spoose should swallow every dirt and the main task of the other spouse to forgive.

The son of the main character may be in the 15% of the people to beleive the faithfulness is not a value he meets the 85% of people to hope to find mate from the 15% of people.

2. DO NOT FORGET! The majority of the suicidal people have seriouse DEPRESSION, which was not detected by any doctors, so the main character must not be accused for Connie's suicide, he is not profesional neurogist/psichiatrics to diagnose and to treate with antidepressants his cheater wife!

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 3 years ago

Writers writing about writers writing... Seems like a lazy plot point when you think about iit, but it tends to lead to some HARD-hitting stories, doesn't it? Radk especially is amazing at capturing the emotional details of betrayal and loss that comes from a cheating story, it's always a treat to read his tales of woe.

This reminds me of another LW classic called Discovery, which I won't spoil here but also deals with a father losing his relationship with his daughter after his wife's infidelity. You should go read THAT right now if you haven't already!

betrayedbylovebetrayedbylovealmost 3 years ago

Damn

Tremendous re-read of a great tale. Funny how the cheating cunt felt no guilt until she was caught. Our hero did everything he was supposed to do and had nothing to be sorry about. Nice that he found love again and can live a loving, peaceful life. Sometimes things work out.

dgfergiedgfergiealmost 3 years ago

The portrayal of his wife's reaction when she was discovered was rather interesting, almost amusing. We didn't seem get much character developement about her but we know what she was.

It was sort of priceless when he called from the parking lot after listening to her lies on the phone about being at the mall.

Then he said:

“You have a good time and don't let Greg catch you missing that stop sign at the Holiday Inn when you leave today. Bye."

Then he heard the scream. Here she was a duplicitous bitch cheating on her husband but the goes crazy when she realizes he now knows she’e cheating? Where was her guilt before she was caught? Guess she was having to much fun.

I thought that was a very good scene. It might have been even better if he had been in the lobby when they came down, or if he’d just stayed on her car and had been there when she came out.

Great story though about the ones cheating who seem to have no idea how many lives they are hurting and destroying families. Alicia and he were close and she helped bring him back to the living. I've been there and holding on to hurt for 40 years. After read many of these stories it's time to let go.

Forgive? That's more difficult.

nixroxnixroxabout 3 years ago

not a very good story.

I agree with other commenters, that Alicia should have been dumped on the curb.

A threat from a woman who has expressed love for you, wants to marry you and then does something like that - NOT believable and NOT acceptable.

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