All Comments on 'Falling off of the Swing'

Too weird.

While I am not secure enough to be in an open or swinging relationship, the context of it in the story made sense to me.

Many seem to disagree, but I really likes the story, and I really liked the twist regarding Donna in the end.

Well done!!

I actually like this story because from the perspective of both characters, their spouse is a cheater. Stephen had an emotional affair with Donna and well, Serena was a human pincushion for dicks. I don't think Serena had a sex addiction, I think rather than that she developed an obsessive compulsion about keeping both partners in the marriage "sexually satisfied" and she had no confidence that she could do it normally because of the example of her parents - the real twist of the knife here is that despite all the sex Serena had at the club, she was NOT sexually satisfied, because she was actually just like her husband - she needed that emotional intimate connection to climax. It was just her compulsion and insecurity that drove her to enter into the swinging lifestyle. Also, let's not forget that Stephen was complicit in this. Hell, he even opens up in his narration that the source of all their problems was him not being honest about how he felt and allowing them to start swinging. I think that this is why I like this story - both characters perspectives are valid and both characters share similar culpability in the damage that was done to the relationship. Remember, even based on the club rules, at any time Stephen just should have refused to go with Serena even if she wanted to and she couldn't get in. They had to be a couple to enter and leave. Honestly, I like the way everything was crafted in this story, I can tell that Stang here put a lot of effort into trying to spread the faultlines around between both characters. Of course, I think some people will have biases in either direction here, but from my own perspective I think he did an excellent job. 5/5

Someone said it best 12 months ago. 5 pages of nonsense. 1 star for this literary diarrhea. It's foul so much so that a thousand rotting corpses would collectively smell and look better.

An interesting premise for a story. But, Nah, I don't believe a real couple could survive her sort of sexual shenanigans. Just no way. She had a mental illness involving a sex addiction, and that wouldn't be fixed by "love" or even her intentions. And one wonders how that much sex (and risk of exposure) would effect her fertility. What kind of man would want to RISK their future on such a messed up personality? I have read of prostitutes who moved on from that profession to lead normal lives and marry so intentions count, but this women was so fucked up that what intelligent person would TRUST those intentions? She admitted herself they were not trustworthy. So an interesting story, but a premise that could only exist in fiction. But Stangstar does a good job with it.

One of the most interesting and intelligent bits of writing I've come across. 👌 really well done. Swinging not my scene personally but the way you wrote this had me wanting to know what happened next. BardnotBard

Hated it.

3 stars. It was well written. And at least somewhat entertaining.

But (like main character I guess) I can't get past the fact that she spent a year or more FUCKING IGNORING his unhappiness and frustration and moreover pushed him into things he wasn't happy with.

That's not how "love" works. It's pure selfishness and she shows absolutely zero evidence of actually LOVING him. As in, sacrificing something she wants/needs for his sake.

Creative and entertaining story about four characters who were differing degrees of b@t$h*t crazy. Jerry is simple. He can't get sex from Donna so goes to the swingers club for physical sex that he cannot get from Donna, who is an emotional parasite and near black widow without the mating part. Donna is truly demented. Meanwhile Serena is messed up because of her parents and is so worried about sex outside the marriage destroying their lives together, she pushes the swingers club on Steve and lets loose her wild side, hope that somehow that orgasms will feel some emotional wound in her soul, but fails because (a) the sex is inferior to whatbshe has with Stephen, and hence she becomes an addict getting into rough group sex, fucking 20-30 guys a month near the end of her year or so run and (b) she won't ever find an emotional al connection in the club when all she does is bang away with nameless strange cocks, with no intimacy and no emotion, just physical sex as if she is an aging pornstar, who just happens to not get paid, but has to do more and more to keep starring in films. Think the pornstar is a better analogy than slut or whore. Takes more and more to get her off, she is slowly getting jaded about how much effort to orgasm, and she is distancing herself without knowing it from any emotional attachment or intimacy with Stephen. The Serena's vicious cycle exposition to the police while unlikely to be aired that way, was in fact an apt summary of how bad things got thr last several months. Stephen meanwhile had trouble dealing with what happened between his father and mother. His mother chose poorly and thr family paid the price when his father could not have any self respect and stay. Being young he had emotional scars and blamed his father thinking he should be more forgiving. All Stephen wanted is sex with someone that he loves and can share intimacy and emotional attachement with. He had that with Serena before they joined the club but lost it entirely when he couldn't be fulfilled with other women despite his being well endowed and an excellent, and attentive lover. Serena did not pay attention at all to the signs that he did not want to her to go and that he was not in fact screwing other women after the first few times. When he witnessed Serrna being vocal when gangbanged a few months before the climax of the story, he distanced himself greatly from her, now taking up the mantle of his father, realizing that he and Serena had totally different views on sex and while Serena was not technically cheating, she was not responsive to his needs and wants, was disrespecting him by her actions and uncouth behavior, though not her intention or even aware of it as she blissfully thought he was screwing other women with abandon as he lied about his experiences at the club. Of course as the vicious cycle settles in, Stephen and Serena drift apart in multiple ways and Stephen begins courting Donna first as a friend, then as a girlfriend and then romantic partner without the sex. For Stephen it was a slow build up to a final communion of souls with Donna that could never happen given her medical condition and her schizoid mental illness. Ironically, Stephen and Serena could fulfill each other. They were the only ones capable of real pair bonding. Donna was broken, Jerry was driven by needs that were unfulfilled by his marriage to Donna and was otherwise a jerk, Serena was damaged but could be healed by being with Stephen, and Stephen could get what he needed from Serena but he inevitably lost respect for Serena, distanced himself, lied and turned full force to Donna. Technically Stephen cheated while Serena did not. His emotional betrayal cut Serena badly, as bad or worse than his realization that Serena is a pornstar who he cannot respect. And why should he? But he indeed cheated on Serena with Donna and only Jerry taking her off the board and going to jail, saved Stepehn from utter ruin in the future. Stephen was totally ready to divorce Serena but the deus ex machina of the twist and Jerry killing Donna, diverted that course of action. Honestly Stephen had to grow a spine and realize that his father acted as was necessary and was not heartless. He could have busted up the club activities way earlier by first explaining why he was uncomfortable and being honest about what he was doing there, when he was supposed to be screwing around for fun, and if that didn't work, demanding a separation. Heck when he saw her being gangbanged, he should have just flipped the off switch on their marriage but was already investing in Donna and didn't want to lose that connection to her. Meanwhile, Serena was stupid in not noticing that her husband was unhappy, and getting worse. She ignored his early pleadings, went with her plan, and overly invested herself into meaningless physical sex with ever harder to achieve orgasms (aging pornstar), becoming addict, but forever unfulfilled. Took her a long time to even find out that she had left her husband behind in the hands of a female emotional predator. Her intense emotions of feeling betrayed as she saw Steve and Donna in love, was quite impressive given her abandoning him physically for her endless search for orgasms with strange cock. Of course in reality all she needed was Stephen..all he needed was Serena. And Jerry saved them both from destruction at thr hands of Donna. Still however, while an interesting and at times shocking premise with many reversals, have a hare time swallowing the reconciliation. Serena needs serious therapy for why she fed her addiction uncontrolled and left her husband behind. He needs therapy as to how to deal with the images and sounds he observed that repulsed him. He also needs therapy for how Donna was murdered as despite learning the truth, his response to her murder cane off wooden. And even then he would be asking himself why he was drawn to a psycho (Donna) and his wife (who is mentally afflicted). And finally they woukd need serious marriage counseling. The reconciliation while cute comes off as more a matter of course as Donna is dead and Serena has given up the club. But lie detectors only go so far and seems like the author spent a long time on the betrayals of both parties, both Serena acting like an aging out of control pornstar and Stephen falling in lobe with Donna, ready to divorce Serena, while she had no clue until the very end what was happening. Again marriage cou seeing would be essential to get to the root as why Stephen didn't put his foot down and say "no" and tell her how he really felt, and why Serena just papered over his earlier concerns and didn't notice or inquire when Stephen withdrew and distanced himself and the vicious cycle got out of control. So yeah therapy for each and counseling for both. Even then good luck. Think author ran out of steam went for the quick reconciliation via signing divorce papers and lie detector tests and having a kid, without them doing the hard work to rebuild their marriage which they had each so thoroughly trashed. Also don't buy her complete instantaneous abstention from the club without serious therapy. Would have preferred her to start seeking help months earlier as she self reflected why they were drifting apart and why she kept needing 20 to 30 guys a month at the end. Instead of all at once, immediate, and full epiphany because she saw Stephen with Donna one night.

This story is loaded with people who've had experiences that have been varying degrees of negative and each character has come out the other side with a warped interpretation of what their experience meant and an equally warped belief that they are now blessed with the wisdom to dictate how others should live their lives.

Also, there was the anal sex thing that is endemic in this site. I suppose it's only to be expected at such a decadent place as a swingers' club but I can't for the life of me accept that a sane, rational, heterosexual man would, on being presented with the opportunity to dip his dick into a steaming hot, dripping wet pussy, elect instead to dip said dick into the adjacent shit pipe. What a waste (in more ways than one)! Kinda like declining an offer of a glass of champagne at a wedding reception preferring instead to piss into an empty glass and drink that! Oh well, that's people for you.

A typically entertaining and OTT romp from SS06. Five stars.

In the whole story the only character worth a shit was Stephen's father, He played it straight.

Ok..a lot to unpack here...now I'm no prude, I've done a lot of kinky shit. Though I just could not reconcile with a woman who was screaming out "next" during gangbangs. I just know this about myself that is a bridge too far for me. I have no doubt she loved him in her odd schizophrenic way, but I couldn't handle that so it'd be better to split than have some weird half relationship where I (and ultimately he) never fully went all in with her. But decent story, something different on LW is truly a rare sight.

5 pages of nonsense

Well...... something one seldom finds on Literotica- an unusual storyline. The wife character- Serena- was a true headcase. The husband character - Stephen- should have been running for the exit and never looked back. His pops was smarter and set a good example. Doubling down on frantic gangbangs because she wasn't paying attention to the husband's communications or missed the signs of his disaffection was clearly some kind of mental illness. One might think this just an outlandish plot but I am hear to tell you that people, even allegedly loving married ones have done things seemingly just as crazy. My wife was a psychologist who did marriage counseling for years and told me some really insane tales (which I never share). What I do doubt is that she could change her behavior so easily as she said or that he was so accepting as she stated. Consider he had effectively rescinded his consent about the swinger club when expressing doubts which she simply ignored. That he would just accept that declaration and stay together with such an unstable spouse seems unlikely. Also, I question whether a female doing such wild, rough, high demand sexual marathons so often would still be reproductively viable whether from disease, or just damaged 'equipment'. Women from extended sex slavery in the Balkans (i.e., Bosnia) became infertile as often as not. So the children that sealed the new bargain seems dubious to me. But the author did indeed produce a unusual story. The Donna character angle was indeed an unexpected fruitloop. And frankly, the wife didn't deserve a second chance, or at least the husband would have been smarter to insist on her getting mental treatment as a condition of reconciliation.

Cannot believe the wife's response to her husband not making love to her for months is to go harder and more extreme at the club. But then again she wanted to quit when she got worried that something was wrong and he instead made them go more often. But the wife was dumb not to realize that something was wrong. The husband was a real asshole. I getnthat he got hurt seeing her pull a train or get fucked rough by Jerry in the club. And yes it is human to feel.upset about it when seeing your partner in a swing club, despite the fact that agreed to go. But instead of confronting her and telling her that he is upset and can't get the images out of his mind and doesn't want to touch her, instead he starts an affair with Donna, regularly dating her for months, without touching his wife the whole time and no sex with Donna, and ends up falling in love with Donna and out of love with Serena. And he is the one that forced them to continue despite his wife's impassioned pleas and really ramped up the frequency from like once a week to 2-3 days a a week and then finally 5 nights a week, hust so he could keep dating Donna. And btw Jerry never got clued in? He knows Donna is asexual. She had to convince Jerry to go five night a week. Wtf? Why would she want him to? Of course around that time they both got suspicious but why nit months earlier? Serena was dumb and didn't catch on to what shenwas putting her husband through and turned her sorrow into not having her husband make love to her into become a full extreme slut. This doesn't really fit her character when you read her analysis afterwards when talking to the police or in the epilogue. Despite the husband having an affair with Donna and willing to divorce Serena, he is the one that makes his wife go through the lie detector test and withholds trust from her for years. I feel sorry for the price Serena had to pay, despite her not cheating. Slut? Yes. Cheater. No. You can argue he didn't really want it. Well then fucking have a spine and say so. At some point he lied to her about being drained because to be honest he viewed her a whore and was trying to be nice to her? Wow messed up. No spine. Not even counseling. So Serena who appears to love her husband a lot more than he does her, despite appearances to the contrary, she has to work her ass off to regain his trust and even then he is only in love with her "most of the time". Not saying she isn't blameless but the punishment did not fit the crime, while he was ready to step put of their marriage without a word. Complex swinging story. But wow no wonder why.94% of all open marriages (including swingers) end up.ij divorce.

Odd story. Serena was a wild swinging slut. Going five days a week to the club, doing multiple guys? With permission though grudging and changing from hubby. But Stephen has a full blown emotional affair with Donna, a married woman. What a mess. Technically Stephen is the cheater while Serena made heavy use of her club visits.

This had the basis for a good story,but got ridiculous.Who goes to a swingers club five nights a week,even if it was open.What did he do on the nights Donna wasn't there?If Donna was sewn up like Jerry said,then why was she at the club.?

I think if the author is honest this swinging lifestyle bullshit is really his dream reality

Gee…when you think something will improve your marriage..but ends up destroying it..until the last minute, when things turn around..that’s remarkable …..and likely …unl8kely

Ups and downs of life .quite a journey!

Thanks for that.

Good story. Lots of discussion about Serena cheating but, little dialog about the real cheater in the story - Stephen. He was the one that formed an emotional attachment and was really cheating. How did Serena handle that?

Mfj

Great story, very well written, it had it all plenty of sex, character development and twist and turns along the way. Def one of my favorites.

I was wondering when I would see the stang crash into a bridge abutment and total it....in this case "it" was his story.

Well written, as usual, but really dumb assed strory.

crazy. like the police questions and answers at their house. Donna's "condition" was a real twist to the story

The scenes where the wife is "talking" to the cops was the killing blow for me/ BTRH...

Weird story, but the writing was good

I disagree with some of the commentary below. I thought it was a well constructed story with very good character development. The point that sex without love feeling an intimacy really is a worthless effyet a worthless effort to anybody who has a heart and a sense of purpose in life beyond self gratification was very well brought ou.

Always a good read.

with respect

DG Hear

High quality story, well told, very involved and has surprises. I didn't personally like the ending, but that's just personal preference.

Interesting character development and plot.

These characters are ALL seriously "sick puppies"!

I read the story to the end just to see where the author was going to take it, even though I knew early that I wouldn't like it.

I was right, and ended up giving this story the lowest rating I've ever given one by SS06. Sorry, but it deserved it!

Stories here aren't helped by "cracker barrel philosophizing". The characters come across as juvenile.

That became weird. Almost as weird as your fat girl fetish. But each to their own.

But I have to say that Steve is a massive hypocrite. He judges his father for not forgiving his mother, and divorcing her, but at the same time, says he fell out of love with his wife when he saw her having sex, which he agreed to. He said his mother 'made a mistake' and should be forgiven, but at the same time, gave up on his wife, when he had agreed to swinging, so anything she did was with his consent. He also seems to have the attitude that it's someone else's responsibility to pick up the pieces of his mistakes.

I'll reserve judgment until I read further.

Hey Anon,

Apparently you missed the part where he DID say no to all that shit. My guess is that you've never been married to a woman you truly love. My cheating ex wheedled and cajoled me into all kinds of shit until one day I just snapped. It took years for me to realize that she was INCAPABLE of placing my wants above her own, and even then she convinced EVERYONE I was the asshole for saying no. Ten fucking years of loving that bitch and I walked away from the court room with nothing but my soul, the clothes on my back and the merest fragment of my pride even though she'd cheated, lied and stolen ten years of my life.

Wow... that story turned out to be just “bat shit crazy!”... a very good story and read. I enjoyed it a lot. But... just “ bat shit crazy”... Thank-you... in a bat shit crazy sort of way... ;)

Serena wasn't a whore? She was! She had marriage and loving husband, so why did she start pushing him to swing? Just because of some stupid thouhgts in her head? She could go for counselling or something like that. But she just choose to be a whore. She had to think about the consequences of her actions. A normal guy won't be happy if his wife fucks other dudes and will never forget and forgive this up to the end of his life. What Stephen did, namely.

Son like father

Was Serena a whore, I don't think she was. Steven brought this all on himself. He could have said no to the swinging, he didn't. He could have told Serena he didn't want them to go to the club anymore. He didn't. He could have expressed his feelings to Serena about how he felt with her performing at the club the way she did. He didn't.

I don't like the idea of sharing a wife but Steven initially accepted it and even when he was unhappy with it he still didn't say anything to stop it.

For me he's entirely at fault for the situation that he found himself in and then went on to punish Serena for his failings.

Another white trash skanky piece of filth who deserved nothing. How gross?

Reading again, just another story about how poisonous swinging can be to a marriage.

Some of you are dumb. Yeah Selena pushed him to swing but he agreed. She never cheated on him. He could have manned up and told her what was going on and how he felt but he didn't. No, your hero engaged in an emotional affair and lied to his wife about it. Stephen engaged in emotional blackmail and used Selena as a consolation prize. Quite frankly, he is an immature asshole

While it was actually well written. My issue was she PUSHED him into going to the club. She said he gave her what she needed but did not want to cheat on him and lose him. So she forced him to accept her cheating. He should have tossed her ass out.

He is a Cuckold...

SS06 can write but this was pure bullshit.

What a whore.

Excellently written and had an interesting and provocative story arc, 5 stars.

I wish SS06 was still writing. This story stands out as being one of the best I have ever read on this site. The reason being is that it expresses the epitome of deep and abiding love. He knew that sex and love were connected; while she did not. It took her a long time to come to his conclusion. His being able to forgive her demonstrated a wisdom seldom seen here. Now there are two with the same conviction; he saw her encounters with other men as just being sex (albeit hurtful at the time) of which she recognized how empty it was. It is said: "love does recognize when it has been wronged," the same source saying "there is no forgiveness where there is unforgiveness." Only people who can grasp these two concepts truly understand the love which is shared by husband and wife. My wife and I are soon celebrating 52 years together.

It was your standard swinging cautionary tale. Then it got very original and a little weird. OK more than a little. Not saying I didn't enjoy reading the weird part but yeah. Then it depicted a long very hard road back to making it together. Enjoyed the hell out of it.

I think, having been mentally prepared by reading these stories and thinking about what I'd do, I would likely tell my wife, when she first brought up swinging, to have a good life and adios. But no one knows for sure what they would do unless they have been through it.

"...my husband drives like fucking Batman." Makes me laugh every time.

SHUT THE FUCK UP! If you hate his FREE stories, why are you reading them?

It is Almost always The same, hubby is god's gift to The women And Knows it, wife is beautiful as some Movie Star But unfortunately also as stupid as she is beautiful. Otherwise The story wouldn't work for The author. So hubby Sees it all before but can't Save The marriage because wifie is so selfish And stupid that hubby decides he want another, And they wait only for him because he is such A Great man, really god's Gift to all women. And he can't wait for her to make mistake so he can Show her that And get another beauty who is finally praising his beeing like everyone should because he is so manly, so intelligent just every Woman Would be blessed to take his Former wife's Place. Ah yes don't forget The mustang, no stangstar story without a mustang, hubby Would be 1% less awesome if he had no One. So his story feel like "what if ... This Would be my real life" his story are just a Way to blow himself Sugar up his ass because no One Else does, Even with mustang...

One third of Stang's stories are awesome. Another third are pretty 'meh'. This belongs to the category containing the final third - fucking horrendous. What were you thinking?!

The Donna Asexual thing.

At first, I truly disliked this story. I dislike stories similar to this where the Hubby is a Wimp and Cuckhold. This was kind of like that except Hubby & Wife had comprehension and communication issues. They both "Guessed" at reasons for their families breakups and both were horribly wrong.

Now, If you have read some of my other comments I am all about Scorched Earth when the wife cheats. But in this case, she really DIDN'T cheat. He was just too much of an idiot, not even really a wimp, just too stupid to lay the law down on the Club and end it. If he had, especially earlier when they first started, they wouldn't have really had such major issues.

So, because of that, I can't lay blame on either one but instead, it is on both equally for being brainless dipshits. I was actually happy they ended up getting back together once they both figured out how fucked up their reasoning skills had been. I only like the Scorched Earth and "Burn 'em where they Stand" approach when the wife is a total slut, but she really wasn't as she was trying to find what her husband had and wasn't giving her.

BTW: Probably one of the better quotes of all time in these stories comparing leg cellulite to marbling on a Steak.

"That little bit of cellulite on the back of her thighs was like the marbling on a good cut of steak." Bahahahahahahaha.

Overall, I rate this a decent story, just extremely weird and somewhat frustrating at points of it when you realize the 2 main characters are only a few IQ points above Full Retard. And you NEVER want to go Full Retard.

I don't usually read swinger stories, but since it was StangStar, I read this one. As is his norm, the writing was very good. It is a different take from his usual for sure. I still don't like swinging.

Kinda liked it up to the end - then Donna turned out way over the top.

But - got to agree with Serena here, *he* is the cheater. She encouraged him to start at the club but *he agreed* and promptly started enjoying himself, and then she didn't step out of those boundaries, he did ( and Donna ofc ). So Donna gets whacked, Serena gets dragged through shit, but what about him? who's was the betrayal? he comes out smelling squeaky clean having dumped hus karmic load on his wife.

Maybe you wrote this as a gentle trolling piece, but it's not going to change anyone's mind...

but you're a skilled writer and got me attention going through all the story.

Of course I don't buy a single word of what you wrote especially all the bs you put in Serena's lips. She can't love her husband and do what she did. She was seriously damaged. The fact that you dont mention counseling at all puzzles me. At least a line telling us they needed a lot of counseling. You're the boss, it's your story, but the end is also a lot of bs. No way they're going to make it. Too much things went wrong in their relationship and I didnt see any real love in her or him.

Waaaay down the rabbit hole for sure! I knew that something "off" was coming, thanks to your warning note up front, but I have to say I never even considered the "gotcha" that you dreamed up. Great job!

I do feel that the murder was a tad extreme, but hey, so was the missing-twat twist! ;-)

That being said, some husband or other should have had her ass. If she loved any of them enough, she should have given it willingly....

Sorry attacking people for another person's crime is disgusting take your revenge on the person who did the crime not on innocent people I would have tracked the father down

I would like to read a story about Donna's family and the revenge the father took of the rapist.

I really like your stories but this was too weird for me. 4

hope the whore gives him aids

he deserves it for staying with her .

do I see something fresh and unique on here. Thanks.

A swing club only has a chance of working if both partners want it for the right reasons from the get go. In this case it was dammed from the start. Know one should be brow beaten into joining one chances are 98% you and your spouse will fail.

At least we know how to turn caps lock off. Your computer doesn't have to type all capital letters, you know. There's this button.

Serena is a deviant, depraved, cheating slut, read the story, no question about it.

Stephen is the poster boy for Cuckolds R US and Wimpy Creampie Eaters United.

This story is about sickening sexual deviance and Codependent Losers.

Makes me want to puke!

This is the WORST story StangStar06 has published here and I truly wish I never read it.

I am glad Stephen and Serena stayed together. I think Serena made some stupid choices but she finally realized it and changed her behavior.

It would have been better if they had gone into counseling then they would have had the potential of getting to the bottom of the problem.

Great story SS06

Well written story about idiots.

I enjoyed it! That what counts to me why because everyone on this earth is entitled to a second chance! If you go bankrupt after a few years you get another chance! If you go to jail after you serve the time you have another chance! And the list goes on So I believe that you are entitled to a second chance if you really love each other! Mind you I don't believe in third or fourth or repeat offenders in cheating on your spouse. Love is a many splendid thing and the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence. Love you all GREG! OH 100 % OF READING ENJOYMENT BYE.

Just 5 pages of sick depraved shit.

In the end Serena proved that she still loved her husband and wanted to stay married. On the other hand Stephen had said that he had stop loving Serena by the middle of the story. He never said that he had re-kindled his feelings for her. In fact, he was still experiencing pain from her actions in the end. He made her take a lie detector test, but did not take the same test himself. Regardless of Donna's physical and mental state - Stephen had left the marriage emotionally when he saw his wife gang-banging and had attached to Donna. He was planning on divorcing the woman he no longer loved and being with his new love. The fact that Jerry killed Donna does not change the fact that Stephen had stopped loving his slut wife Serena. So, why stay with Serena? She was still the same stupid selfish slut as before Donna got killed. Her selfishness, her stupidity, her total lack of concern about her and her husband's reputation's, the probability of disease transmission regardless of the swingers clubs "rigorous standards" - all make her an unappealing life partner. If Stephen was such a catch, he would have no trouble finding a woman that fit into the category of normal, decent wife.

Well written and enjoyable story although long winded at times.

1. Lie detector tests have not been used by police for many many years as they have been proven to be very inaccurate.

2. It is NOT cheating when the spouse has permission to have sex with others. Sure, she acted like a slut but neither of them were cheating.

I know a few people that go to swingersclubs,is theyr life better because of it ?i seriously doubt it, from the 5 couples i know 3 are divorced and the two others are living together for the kids,i still think that people who get involved in this lifestyle are hoping to find smth better as if those places could provide that

I love a happy ending, when a couple can work things out.

But, she had sex hundreds if not thousands of times with others.

What was written? 20 guys in last month alone.

How in real life could any guy get around that? In this regard the story was not true to life, a guy that could accept that, would want to divorce in first place.

Not sure if there were any emotionally undamaged characters in this tale. Wow.

Good read.

good work.

Uncertain about the psychology of her actions.

I can see doing more and more to compensate for loss of intimacy.

But just stopping swinging would have done the same thing while proving she wanted her husband.

Swinging, cheating, sex with others, it never works out long term

Its a certain relationship killer.

No man, however new age, can long term tolerate his wife with others. Unless he has a mental illness of course.

a bit over done at the end, but well thought out. they will watch their last sunset together. there was a lot in this story, too much actually to try and ridicule the author. the reasoning, and logic was understandable. nice job.

I think that I may have misjudged this author. The few stories that I have read of his (Besides Chrissie) have left me with a one sided view of this author. But for some reason I began to read other stories. This is the third story in a row by this author that I have read and have liked. My apologies StangStar06.

Bfreetorun expressed my sentiments. Weird. Good writing. Quite a different story line. Thanks. Cheers!

SS06 , You are great . All of your stories that I've read so far merit 5 star. Maybe not just 5 but a galaxy of 'em.

Thank you

Amazingly written. Poor tortured boy though....

Serena loved her husband as much as he loved her. She wanted to grow old together but was too much of an idiot to see that her way of ensuring just that would have the exact opposite effect. I wager that had they not joined the swingers club, she wouldn't have had sex with any other man than her husband. She was trying to achieve the right goal through the wrong means. Too bad, that once something is broken, the cracks will always show, no matter how you try to put it back together.

Although she lucked out on the Donna front, don't guess she'd get a second chance if Donna wasn't out of the picture.

Funny thing about Steve, for one who professed that he loved Donna, he was pretty unperturbed after hearing the news of her demise.

All in all a really life-like story (even accounting for the less believable bits). You plan with the best intentions at heart, but you're only human and you have to live with your mistakes and choices.

When you love someone, you put their feelings before your own. Serena never at any point in the marriage did that. She said she loved Stephen, yet forced him to join the club even when she knew it would hurt him, all in order to satisfy her own urges. She didn't love him, she loved dick. To her Stephen was like a cuddly toy or a security blanket to a child. He was there to stop her feeling alone after she (pardon the pun) got her fill of cock.

I don't know about this story, it makes me feel funny. Too bad about Donna and Jerry, really strange. Stephen lucked out on that one. (I realize that it is just a story but stranger things have happened.) Thank you for writing, I will go take my Haldol and a Valium, too.

Like so many of these stories, the couple fails miserably communicating their feelings. Serena was a complete fool in not investigating the change in behavior of her husband further. The author prepared the characters nicely.

no ones life ever is not should it be, TK U MLJ LV NV

She drove him to accept going to a swingers club. She fucked 100's of guys and had them inside her. If i was him the divorce would have been final and no chance of recovery. She was a slut the whole i love you shit is bullshit.

She just didnt want to lose her meal ticket. I would bet she cheated again and again on him anyway there would be no way i would EVER trust her.

I am very nearly speechless! I am pretty much convinced that you are either a psychologist or you have had considerable psychological training. I am certainly going to have to reread this story several times. I have friends who swing and I will definitely recommend they read this story.

I'M proud StangStar wrote this story beyond its numerous possible conclusions to demonstrate the wide range of situations people make for themselves OR stumble into without any help. Shit does happen and some find a way to clean their shoes and move on ... with awkward memories at times. SUPERIOR STORY.

This is a perhaps rabid story according to too many reviewers. I personally value this unique story theme for the insight into how incidents though everyone's life cycle can impact so many others long into the future. Every reader Should be open to the realization that each person has the power, and unwittingly uses that power to change to lives of others without even trying. Others Should realize that ALL people respond to daily situations according to their past exposure to limited life situations, not necessarily the way others would expect them to react. That said, please pause before you judge another person according to Your beliefs ... which could be flawed.

Preaching done. I loved the story for it's realism ... as I believe it could have been. My bride and I have been 'messing with' other people's lives for many years as swingers. Long ago we realized we had the potential to either improve, or damage, another couple's personal relationship depending on their good or bad life experiences. A significant percentage of subjects in the wannabe playful couples market are doomed to failure and should be treated carefully. I saw several reflections in this story as a perfect fit with individuals we have known; all are realistic characteristics ... and potentially dangerous.

I'm not surprised that this one story stirs up so much response. I am surprised that there is so much venom and sever judgement over one man's vision - that some of us do fully appreciate and encourage.

But a story about intimacy and the importance of married people being able and willing to communicate effectively. I really liked the way you expressed their feelings and thoughts. Thank you.

The way you are able to shift gears in your approach -

This was great - to pick on an idea that was fully planned to eliminate the risk of damage by replacing the offending behavior with an "innocent" one and then having it fail because of the real primary issue - poor communication - priceless in its simplicity.

The complexity was all manufactured and never needed to happen - a very common thread in people's lives.

More good reading as expected thanks -

A wonderful story that is well written and edited.

A little wordy in spots, but overall a very good story.

I like the trust aspect that the author was making and felt sympathy for both Stephen and Serena for what they were going through.

Thanks Stang and Miko for the good read.

1. Different for sure, SS, but I enjoyed it. Thanks for writing.

2. Suggestion. Tighten up your writing, too much repeating, ie, several of paragraphs explaining to the cops about the night before, etc, were just repeating. Don't make us wade through it all twice or more.

3. Commentators: be kind to HIV and Luna--commenting on stories are important to them and probably a major part of their life. I know it's not fun reading, so don't--skip them.

4. SS: please don't write about sewing up pussies anymore. That depresses me!

tom anon

And how fragile they can be to maintain...almost impossible to regain. Many of the commentors seem to think losing spousal trust requires tremendous overt betrayal; not so. Once that tenuous bond is severed, the fall can be precipitous. Nice story.

I totally agree with you that she did not destroy the trust in the common cheating-wife sense. Nontheless the trust he had in being enough for her was completely destroyed. And that is devestating for every (sane!) husband in the world. And it also was her fault, not because she went behind his back, but because she PRESSURED him into letting her have sex with other men. In her mind that was only because she wanted to prevent cheating to become even an issue. But in his mind it became 'I am not enough for my wife' and she SHOULD have known that. Thats like murdering someone by shooting him in the head vs. accidently killing someone by shooting him in the head while sinking skulls are bulletproof. So YES the trust is destroyed and it was her fault for beeing unbelievable stupid and careless.

What she really did was to seperate the core issue ('I am not enough for my wife') from the usual circumstances and managed to pull of the improbable: To manifest all the negative consequences of cheating, without actually cheating. And thus her fears became a selffullfilling prophecy. Its quite poetic actually.

I agree with you that someone rocking the boat who is already happy is a stretch. Or at least I would if I would not see it every single day in the real world. Do you think all the obese people for example don't know that they fuck up their lifes ? Of course they do, but they can't help it. The Wife in the Story knew she had a happy marriage but that was nothing special to her, everyone can have that in the younger years, she wanted to make sure she has a happy marriage in her late life. So in her mind, she tried to replace some planks on the boat while in calm waters to make it sturdier for the coming storms, only she totally fucked up her variables and removed the wrong planks which destroyed the structural integrity of the vessel (trekkies ho!) and the boat nearly sank in those calm waters. So in my opinion its not unlikely, its just very tragic.

Awesome take on what a real vampire is like, an emotional vampire. She lured him in, feeds of him to her hearts content and then destroys her victim. That her father is a maniac who then kills them for real is just icing.

I dont even comment on the whole swinger thing, its the same shit different day. Just miscommunication. Serena just didn't get it that men bond through sex and women bond through romance. So when she made the rules it was all the sex we want for us (which will hurt him but not her, because sex without romance isn't threatening for women) but NO Romance for us (So that she is save). Then Steven (like many beta males) made the mistake of not wreaking havoc when he should have but instead letting that little passive-aggressive Bucket fill itself to the brim and then quietly running away with Donna (or trying to at least, what would have been his doom)

loved the stitched it up part. wife was your typicle nut case, you seem to like that character for a wife, but it was a pretty funny read. gave u another 5.

he limited himself to sideshow circus clown, not a serious commenter. Why can't Fox News broadcast in Canada? Because Canadian law prohibits "lies and misrepresentations" from broadcasting as news. The reason duna got called out is because he holds himself out as "news" and not "sitcom." He is like a BILLY or DWormcock now, a total fucking joke who we can laugh at but not take seriously.

Harry, drop it. You're sounding second class after the abuse you've handed out over the years. Not that i haven't appreciated it at times. So live and let. Unless you happen to be x_!_x d'oh in which case...

You carry on Duna me old mate, no-one's listening anyway.

I came a country where the cenzorship was the rule from 1947 untill 1989. It is very interesting and funny in a country where the media free from Centuries somebody wants it again..............

I do not like people injur others (and me) and sometime I agree I was over the top for these (plural) things. I am sorry for injureing some people who was inocent in injureing others.

I wrote here a longer comment to conclude a Central European' eyes POV about this and other SS06's stories. I would not write here newer comment to this story if somebody said I am mass and serial killer..............