All Comments on 'The Wrong Man'

by BillandKate

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AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
A good story

Way, way, too much backstory. The flash-backs just killed the story flow and I wound up skipping about half of it. If you had just told the story without going back to all the "how we met" stuff, I would have given it a five. With that, it gets a four. Thanks for writing.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago

Learn how to do flash backs, it killed the story.

CrkcpprCrkcpprover 6 years ago
B&K have become read immediately !

B&K you are really coming into rarified air in this genre . I always delve right in when I see a post of yours !

Some are complaining about the Flashbacks , and those can be tricky if you are skimming . But yours were well labeled and were easy to follow .

The plot opening was unique , I've never seen a note in a used book used as a literary device before , quite ingenious really .

My only real quibble was ( maybe I'm jaded ) what she did really did not rise to the level of threatening divorce over . It was tame compared to some of the story lines one finds here . But that's of minor concern when taking in the entire scope of your story .

I really enjoyed it ! Great job and major thanks for you sharing it with us !

5 *'s

P.S. I think Karin with an I really begs for her story to be told !

tazz317tazz317over 6 years ago
RING AROUND THE ROSEY

let POSEY take over the reasoning, TK U MLJ LV NV

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
I agree with the guy that said the back story ruined the flow.

Why does every author, (with the exception of 1 or 2) think it's always necessary to include a total history of every character? Some of them start with, "I was born." Who cares? If it's necessary to tell the story okay but otherwise forget it.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
I just finished reading your really cool...

and clever story. So interesting. So much to think about, with truly decent father and daughter subjected to the horrors of truly indecent mother and paramour. Then, I read the negative comments about your background information being distracting. Golly gee, too bad they didn't enjoy the ride. Picky, picky. It's like eating a delicious meal in a fine dining establishment, only to complain that the dessert didn't taste good enough. I gave it 5 stars, and appreciate all your hard work.

LordSlamdawggLordSlamdawggover 6 years ago
The Cerulean Center Holds : Story Spackles on a Ebullient Ending to Marriage Stress-Tested to Max by Uppity, Lowdown, Malefactor Mom in Law

What BillandKate did RIGHT & what they went WRONG .( IMHO)

Right : Gave reader sympathetic narrator with platinum work ethic and ( usually ) stainless steel ethics who in process of redressing wrongs aimed his person , went to very edge of precipice with cyber surveillance and fabricated evidence against those whose morals didn't match his own. The strong intro where as teenager Jeff almost went off rails and nearly used violence on straying cheerleader gf gave lingering havoc potential .

Wrong : The narrator's wife was portrayed as suggestible dupe who left to her own devices would have foundered her marriage. Everyone has bad days but Emma 's

positive attributes took backseat to her personal foibles. No kids and just Sampson the dog's custody in question ? It seemed like Jeff deserved better early in story ?

Right : I really enjoyed evil Lois's levels of duplicity , in terms of her being a worthy opponent for narrator in shining armored narrator. Siccing her lover to seduce and marry daughter so the cheating two-some can have optimum logistics to tryst . That's Simon Cowell level in terms hissable nastiness..

Wrong : Evil Lois and Ingenious Jeff had only abstract face to face scenes or encounters throughout story until near conclusion where his triumph was already cemented. Even cucked father in law interacted more with narrator, then most interesting ( in morbid salacious way ) character of drama.

Right : The best storytellers use multiple offbeat, supporting characters to color tapestry of tale. Kudos for amputee ex-cop scenes and patrician father in law who has moral code matching social standing.

Wrong : I didn't like cyber felony, pseudo embezzlement frame job . The surveillance is one level of morally dicey tactic that one winces at , but can swallow. But it seemed the plot should have found a way to imprison the creeps for crimes they actually committed.

Bottom Line : If this story was a woman , it would be Sophia Loren with a couple of huge warts instead of her Itty bitty mole beauty marks. A top notch editor could nip tuck story's flaws into platinum read. Kudos for consistent tension maintenance and out of box level plotting..

I thank BillandKate for sharing.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago

Pretty good...but I'm not sure why he went right back in the doghouse after she found out he was innocent and they made love. As far as the flashbacks go, I didn't mind most of them. The info on his education and work history was a bit dry and could have been reduced a bit.

Thanks for the story.

Cog

Vegasrails2Vegasrails2over 6 years ago
wrong man

A very enjoyable read

SomeOneTwoThreeSomeOneTwoThreeover 6 years ago
A good story.

Well written and structured.

No important questions unanswered.

Most enjoyable read.

Top ratings from me.

Thanks BillandKate!

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
4*s

Really very good.

Enough back story for the reader to get emotionally invested with your protagonist.

The dialog was clear and understandable.

The wife, Emma , could have been better. I mean how did she develop the empathy and compassion?? With distant and cold parents, where did she learn to be kind ??

Gave you 4*s Bill. Best new story this week.

Thank you 🍻😊.

AMerryman

WhackdoodleWhackdoodleover 6 years ago
Too many inconsistencies

How did he buy the book online if he bought from a used book store? Why would he believe his marriage is falling apart because his wife went to a play with a"friend" of her moms? If his marriage is over it's because he doesn't trust her. After all, he went for a romantic dinner with another woman with the intention of getting busy and she still trusted him enough to take him back.

All in all, this was simply crap on a plate with a side order of crap, served with a steaming bowl of crap on the side.

johntcookseyjohntcookseyover 6 years ago
Nice rhymn' exclamation point.

I like the use of flashbacks to illustrate Emma's character. Good people faced with adversity.

I'd like to point out that the details seem so outlandish as to be contrived, but unfortunately, I've encountered similar events within my extended family. In one case, the "victim" couple overcame the assault of a meddling father/father in law, and are 35 years into a marriage/love story, but in two other instances, this same "matchmaker" destroyed lives. The arrogant SOB went to his deathbed oblivious and indignant about the righteousness of his actions. Upon hearing word of his death, my brother simply stated "Tell the worms 'good eat'n'". What a legacy!

Thanks for the well crafted story.*****

Impo_64Impo_64over 6 years ago
Another good story from @BillandKate...

Another good story from @BillandKate...Sure the writer used some exagerated points, as stated by @Whackdoodle, but those points didn't mess the main point of this story: the mother selfishness...the mother was the real selfish cheating wife of this story...4*

BuckeyebobBuckeyebobover 6 years ago
A very well done story

Really loved it, great characters, great background development. Thanks so much for the entertaining read.

HarddaysknightHarddaysknightover 6 years ago
I have made this complaint many times.

What people did ten or twenty years ago is a waste of words and space unless it has a direct bearing on the plot. The backstory in this tale served no purpose at all. At least it was marked so I could simply skip it. Short stories need to remain on point. The information provided should advance the plot, or entertain the reader, not waste space. The story itself was better than most we have been seeing, but far from a classic. I will read every story this writer posts.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
possible

A good story has to be somewhat believable. This one is that. I passed on the history, to see the reality, and saw that this could actually happen. Some of it, the computer crap, the chance p.i., all that seems to be the norm here now, but the meat of it is that this can be very real,

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
FETISH B.T.B

just another stupid sick fetish B.T.B story thats shows how much hate many men have for women.No stars here..

somewhatniceguysomewhatniceguyover 6 years ago
Agree with anon B.T.B.

Must agree with anon B.T.B. here; every one gets a shot at redemption and recovery, why not the mother-in-law? Is there anything less pure about her wanting to see the grandchildren? By denying themselves the fact that she carried Emma in her womb for 10 months has to count for something. If she had had son she would've stood by her, no matter what. No matter what. A mother is a mother. You kick a person when she is down and old and frail, thinking 'finally I got you bitch', doesn't make them any better than she is or she was. Emma is the worst bitch here, if she can rationalize her faults in succumbing to her machinations; she can also, or she could have, rationalize her mother and why the way she is and helped her out. The banker husband is just another who kept hating her all her life laughs when she is down and suddenly becomes the loving father to Emma. Some miracle that. He does it only to get back at her mother. No real love there. They are all happy, seeing the one poor old misguided soul disintegrating into nothing and die a miserable death and have the gall to think they are good people; they are scumbags. I like the MIL; she is perhaps the only real person, honest person in this story. Not the squirming stoic FIL with a holier-than-thou attitude, especially when the wife was down.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
re: anonymous- another fetish btb

Well, you should have realized just by the score this isn't one of the stories you would prefer. Just read the tags, doesn't say hot wife, slut wife, cuckolds, swinging, or cum slurping. This author doesn't write your type of story. You knew it before you even started reading, but like always you had to bitch, the very same thing that you complain about others. FIVE STARS, because I prefer reading this type story over yours.

patilliepatillieover 6 years ago
somewhatniceguy POV is hard to empathize with

the mother was pure evil, planning and plotting with premeditated malice & lust against her own daughter. No redemption is possible without sincere apology and much work to right the prior wrongs. I am going to go out on a limb and guess you reside on one of the coasts, are liberal in social/political sense and believe the 10 Commandments are really more suggestions.

Good story B&K, 4* I didnt get why after the couples reconciliation they went back kerflewwy again, the transgressions didnt seem that severe, but oh well.

sbrooks103xsbrooks103xover 6 years ago
Thoughts

Maybe there was no proof, but a romantic rival with FOUR punctured tires and sugar in the gas tank is going to draw unwanted attention. I also don't think the sugar is going to affect their Prom night fun, since the tires more than likely won't be replaced until the next day.

No way would I sleep on the couch! Interior doors are easily unlocked, let HER sleep elsewhere if she wants! Plus, don't they have a guest room?

"I suggest you move into the spare bedroom until we get it sorted out." - So, they DO have a guest room. So, why did he sleep on the couch?

"Mother only wishes the best for me" - No, she only wants what she THINKS is best for you, and that doesn't include Jeff.

Frankly, I don't care how much I love her, I would give her what she wants and file for divorce! That either wakes her up, or ends the misery.

"Looking Back - One" adds little to the story. It doesn't say anything about his relationship with Emma or her family which might help explain the current situation. We already know about the potential promotion.

How does it hurt the other Jeff to tell our Jeff that the note was meant for him? They don't know each other.

I know a lot of women don't like GIVING oral sex, but I'd think she'd have to be REALLY repressed to not want to receive!

Given the letter and her reaction, why would he think it might be a "good-bye" fuck?

'test our paternal instincts' - Nitpick - I think you mean "parental!"

Isn't this the third weekend in a row with her mother? Why couldn't it be 3 or 4 tickets so that he could go also? Or give THEM the tickets so that Jeff and Emma could go, and BOTH spend the weekend with her parents?

When she got back, he should have asked her how she and her mother enjoyed the play! See if she lies about who she went with!

She's STILL throwing Sharon Roberts in his face? Unlike with her and Grant, HE came to her to tell her about Sharon. I'll bet that if he said what I said above, she wouldn't have admitted that she went with Grant!

His GRANDMA said that sometimes "break[ing] the law, is the right thing to do?"

"do you think you can re-build your marriage?" - I would think that without Lois's interference, and proof of her prior home wrecking, it should be doable!

"I'll never forget their faces as they looked at the man responsible for their son's death." - But, what WAS their look? I would think it might be worse for him if the forgave him.

After that reveal, I would have given Jack a hug.

I would also like to read Karin's story!

imhaplessimhaplessover 6 years ago
Good story

5* from me.

bruce22bruce22over 6 years ago
Agree with HDK's evaluation

And, I will also read everything that BillandKate post. I have to admit that she danced on the edge of both emotional and physical betrayal when watched from a distance. Up

close she was confused about what the correct behaviour was.

TCctTCctover 6 years ago
I always enjoy your stories

anonymous- another fetish btb and somewhatniceguy, are you kidding? Please tell us that you were being facetious.

HDK, I completely disagree. The history did a good job rounding out both the characters and their later behavior which added to the plot. If you did just skip them too bad for you.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
A bit silly

when the author does not know that sugar will not dissolve in gasoline, it just sinks to the bottom of the tank. Now enough of it will block the fuel pickup and stop the engine, that's it.

About a 10 pound bag should do it.

Just another old wive's tale.

Add some Diesel instead, way more fun....

onbothsidesonbothsidesover 6 years ago
sbrooks103x

The other Jeff did not want to pen a confession of infidelity and have it exist anywhere in the world. He could deny the letter from the book, as there was no solid evidence to tie it to him.

Would you want to write out your most dangerous secret and have the paper held by who knows who for the rest of your life?

silentsoundsilentsoundover 6 years ago
Hmm

Just weird enough with enough substance and interesting side characters interwoven in a well written story to warrant 5* from this quiet man.

LeFrog08LeFrog08over 6 years ago
I liked this.

Not BTB but with a great outcome.

I really enjoy it when retribution is meted out

onto the guilty.

magmamanmagmamanover 6 years ago
I seldom

take the time to read 5 page stories, too old to concentrate that long. But this one, I liked.

Thanks,

MGM

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Thank You!

Over a month of nothing but cuck stories in LW. B and K come through an excellent tale. Thank you from a starving reader.

sbrooks103xsbrooks103xover 6 years ago
@onbothsides

Maybe he wouldn't WANT to, but why not trust a guy who has no reason to screw you over, rather than give him a REASON to screw you over?

Certainly the other Jeff's wife would be even more likely to doubt his faithfulness than Emma was, and we see how SHE reacted! Who knows, maybe the other Jeff's wife actually knows Teri. He's MUCH safer sending the letter and trusting our Jeff not to tell his wife, then to risk him telling his wife!

kimi1990kimi1990over 6 years ago
HDK said it for me

I am a big fan of this author and I did enjoy the story, but I confess to skipping the historical material. It just made no difference, and didn't add a thing, for me. Nice story.

sdc97230sdc97230over 6 years ago
Would have been better without the flashbacks

Jeff's talk with his father in law provides all the backstory that's needed.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Finally

Finally a story where both husband and wife aren't total sleazes. Some women are in love and don't need all the sex the writers claim to need. if they wanted sex, they wouldn't isolate their husbands, although a woman wanting to cheat for sex is a better read.

I wish she would have stood up more and told her husband about it so they could both plot revenge.

With all that said, a really good read.

VickieTernVickieTernover 6 years ago
"She couldn't compete with the young wives for the attention of any men suitable for fucking."

Quite a social club, that!

bayernpeter1bayernpeter1over 6 years ago
A nice read, bravo!!!

A story without cuckold/wimp or bitch!!! Rarely these days!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

sbrooks103xsbrooks103xover 6 years ago
Flashbacks

I have to add my voice to those not caring for the flashbacks, or the back story, for that matter!

What did reading about his cheating girlfriend have to do with the story?

To whatever extent you felt that the flashbacks were needed (very little, IMHO), you could have started with them and built up to the confrontation, instead of jumping right into it.

boatbummboatbummover 6 years ago
A Terrific, Upbeat Story

It's very satisfying when "Karma and Justice walk hand in hand" - especially with characters we care about. Here's wishing Jeff and Emma and their kiddos all the joy their lives can hold.

I also agree with some other comments that Karin the PI deserves her own story.

Thanks much for this one. 5* for sure!

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Great Story

This is a well written story with a number of strange consequences, etc. but it is fiction and should follow your fantasy of a story. It is a lot better than a lot of the high school level writing and imagination of some of the other recent stories.

Carry on!

Tiny Tim

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Timeline

The frequent jumping back and forth in time was distracting - in one paragraph to describe Grant's set-up, arrest, flipping against his bud, trial, conviction, etc. Then the next is back to discussion with the father with the email evidence. But there is no fill in in the story line from when Jeff first confronts his wife with the "date" until the father comes over for dinner. So you've set up a story milepost confronting Emma then no conflict or reconciliation for what would have been an extended time period. You've just told it, not shown it.

sdc97230sdc97230over 6 years ago
The cheating girlfriend prologue helped establish his character

It explained why he went along so easily with illegal schemes to hang the cheaters. It was just way, way longer than it needed to be.

The flashbacks are another matter. During the "present day" portion of the story Jeff tells Emma that her mother never liked him, and Emma tells him that her mother treated everybody the same way. Then Jeff talks to Emma's father and gets a brief and nicely done explanation of Emma's parents' relationship. That effectively provides all the past history this story needs. The "how they met and married" flashbacks add nothing and can just be skipped, as is typical in just about every LW story.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Thank heaven

Bill & Kate are alive and well... the breeze still blows in fresh from the desert when it is needed. Write again soon!

Chief3BlanketChief3Blanketover 6 years ago
Overall a good story

Like others I felt the flashbacks made the story a little hard to read. On the other hand using flashbacks helped set this story apart from the same old, same old format.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Fantastic Story

Thanks for this well written and very creative story.

lance_spearmanlance_spearmanover 6 years ago
I liked this story

My opinion of this author's stories varies widely - from very good to very poor. This story I liked. Individually the elements were far fetched and implausible; but put together I think they worked well to tell an enjoyable tale.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
5*

It could've been in poetry as it has strong elements of poetic justice with the two rapists. Thanks!

DFWBeastDFWBeastover 6 years ago
THANK YOU!

Very enjoyable read!

thecarolinadreamerthecarolinadreamerover 6 years ago
WELL DONE!

Well B&K, you and the commenters just proved the old saw, “You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t”. Write a tight concise story and we hear, “Too short; cardboard characters; why would she do something like that? And some such stuff.

Write a story that develops the characters and lets the reader see something of the events in life that brought them to this point so they might act in such a way, and your story is “way too long” and if you try to reach a happy medium others will find something else to bitch about, but you know what—I love it!

All their comments, except the “eat shit and die” trolls help to make us better writers and puts us one step closer to many writers' goal of selling more stories. For that I thank all commenters who stay in the constructive bounds of good taste. Those who just say, “You can’t write,” should at least say why they think that.

Anyway, while I think maybe your flashbacks might have been handled better, I can’t point out a better way, (I will be keeping my eyes open, to apply a 'better way' to my work) so I’m giving you a full score. Thanks for a good read. cd

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Sampson

"Touring the Finger Lakes wine country. Sampson was the most personable of the litter of a Lab mom and an unknown male. "

Did you know that Sampson air force base (WW II) was located in the middle of wine country or was the name just chance?

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago

Enjoyable read.

cpetecpeteover 6 years ago
well done

good tale and only wish you wrote more often.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
and anuther wimpy author

must be their auto bio

1 star for 2 pages

. the wimpy suicidal cuk more than I can take.

this/these wimpy author/authors are wimps in the first degree

C_frommnC_frommnover 6 years ago
Loved

The Story esp. the Poem. Why oh Why does everyone want a BTB when nothing happened. but then you BTB and they cry Foul. Anyways if they believe their own Shit let them show a name.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
I sense you worked really hard on this. It had great potential.

At first I couldn't take the measure of this husband. He's supposed to be some macho jock, but he lets his wife consign him to the guest room? And after he confesses to Almost fucking some other woman, the couple did not take that issue as a sign to get some counseling, work on their marriage, reexamine their relationship? You made it sound like they just kind of drifted, with the wife throwing the other woman in his face when it suited her purpose.

Then all the esoteric specialized computer whizz bang shit was a total waste. You might as well have a sniper go through all the ballistics and expansion characteristics and gel penetration profile of the bullet he chose to kill his victim, when all we really care about is that the sniper killed his victim. So Mr. not-macho jock took control of some computers and tricked people. All we really cared about was what he did, and how that affected those people and his marriage. The methodology was tedious and added nothing unless you just wanted to show off your IT chops. Wish I could be impressed.

And perhaps I was skimming over all the methodology details of how they were going to fuck these guys over, but what happened to the money? Did I miss that?

So in the end I could tell you wanted the wife to be a decent woman who had a complete whore monster for a mother. But how does a decent woman not discern the personality and character traits of a whore monster, who she's grown up with pretending to be her mother? The necessary detachment for that to work did not reconcile with the daughter's sudden hunger for this woman's love and companionship.

So thanks for the effort. I would suggest more careful reading for logic and plot faults. Obviously this was given a lot of thought and planning, but it was not scrutinize for legitimacy and realistic humanity. No one that evil can hide for very long from anyone who's really looking. And if no one is looking, then they deserve to fall into that open man hole.

Good luck with future works.

TwentysevenTwentysevenover 6 years ago
One Highlight

For me the highlight of this story was the female PI with the prosthetic leg. Now that's imaginative. Apart from that it was too long and emotionless. The husband and wife both seem like cold fish so I found it hard to get involved.

sbrooks103xsbrooks103xover 6 years ago
@Anonymous Re: "I sense you worked really hard on this."

I think you missed the point of the "monster mother."

It's BECAUSE she was such a monster, and deprived her daughter of a mother's love for so long, that her daughter jumped at the chance to get some of the love that she had missed. She wanted it badly enough that she over-looked her mother's failings.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Btb, stories

Reveal the author's inability and those who like those stories to satisfy their women. You've been cheated on and u can't stand being a cuckold. Get yourself a tame woman who doesn't have experience and will not know how pathetic a lover you are because we real lovers would take your woman and send her back to you wimps ready to cuckold you whenever they can.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
A good piece of writing this story but

The ending and set up for payback really doesn't happen in real life. A bit over the top. But good nonetheless. I quess you had to really work hard to come up with this plot.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
There is nothing minor about

catching the love of your life screwing another guy. I don't care what age you are.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Well Done!

Well-written but got a bit on the "hard to believe" side with the computer/financial mumbo jumbo. Still,a story that cements the bad rep mothers in law have gotten through the years.

I gave this well-composed story a 5 because I can already tell I'll be thinking about it for awhile.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Betrayal

Not by his wife but the witch of a motherinlaw who was cheating his fatherinlaw, the two men sorted it out and everything settled down peaceably.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Shame?

You mentioned clitoral removal being done on young females on the approval of representative's of a certain religion of so called peace.

The shame is that more people are not aware and vocal in protest about this and the other evil that this represents.

Good yarn though.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Good Story Plot

But I could not follow the stuff about computer viruses and eavesdropping on Lois Taylor and Grant Martin. And it is hard to believe Lois would use the same gigolo she was cheating with to come between her daughter and her husband. There is no worse scum or as vile a creature as that. I am glad that Jack got rid of her.

oldbearswitcholdbearswitchover 6 years ago
Good story Arc, but jeea\z, get a better editor

Flashbacks suck, and so do stories that use them

InsigniaInsigniaover 6 years ago
Making the monsters go away

makes for an easy read. Wonder if that search that pulled up all the emails would not also produce the fake that held the keylogger worm? Where did all the cash go? How did you smuggle the poem into the prison? Why take the risk after all the dust has settled. It would be interesting to see this come bite Jeff in the ass a bit later.

A long story with tension throughout kept this from bogging down.

Lois gets burned plenty. A shot at redemption would seem to align with Emma's character.

This did have a good 40's noire tinge to it that I enjoyed. It blended nice with the hacking bits conservative readers will lovingly relate to.

rightbankrightbankover 6 years ago
Thanks for the story

A cast of characters who are hard to like. The only nice person in the entire group was the freelance detective.

sad

OnethirdOnethirdover 6 years ago
Tangles

A happy ending, which I like, and a faithful though suspicious wife that didn’t blow up the marriage in the end. The flashbacks and fill-ins were a little distracting, and I can’t decide if a linear story would have been better. I am happy to see the wicked witch of the East get her just desserts.

ttom76ttom76over 6 years ago
Nice but ...

Nice story, but ...

The flashbacks! Urgh!

I must be in the minority as I actually like all the history most stories have. It helps me identify with the characters. In stories having multiple comments about cardboard characters, there usually is no history and limited or no dialog.

That said, these flashbacks did not occur at opportune times. The last one really got in the way. Why describe how he first met Emma while he's talking with his FIL?

I may be the only one who just wanted the history together at the start or inserted to help make the story flow.

Second point: It's always better to be vague about hacking. Any good antivirus and/or firewall would easily catch your ploy. This is especially true with computers connecting to a bank's internal network.

Others have pointed out other inconsistencies. My main complaint had to deal with how he handled Emma. You don't freeze out your wife when you want to keep her loyalty to you.

Regards, ttom

26thNC26thNCover 6 years ago
Good story

Enjoy stories where the bad guys pay and things end well. Thanks

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Good story, terrible poetry!

Complex and interesting. Could have benefitted by more exposition.

Ib_SaysIb_Saysover 6 years ago

An entertaining story, though I think the flashbacks got in the way, felt more like typical LW genre filler than something that added to the narrative.

FabGMxFabGMxover 6 years ago
... Bitch

That was basically all that the"poem" was missing at the end. LOL.

But yeah, the minor trouble with this one were the flashbacks, dont were fluid enough and it does feel that somewhat interrupt the reading. However its a minor problem and overall the story was great, good character (sans the evil mother in law), good conflict, and good resolution. Here in Mexico we have a say "Cambio suegra por víbora, pago la diferencia" which translates like more or less as "Trade up/change mother in law for snake, i pay the difference" meaning that sometimes its preferible deal with a snake (real or "in spirit") that with an evil vindictive bitch from hell bend on fuck your life.

EzrollinEzrollinover 6 years ago
Another entertaining story by BillandKate

The flashbacks may have been better placed but that wasn't a spoiler for me. In all an entertaining story with a lot of thought and effort put into it. Don't know if it's technically sound but enjoyed it no less.

Pappy7Pappy7over 6 years ago
If the wife was old enough to get married

she was old enough to be accountable for her actions. The fact that she treated her husband so badly showed that she was totally invested in letting her marriage go. I am not sure that the husband should have let her off the hook so easily. The fact that she went to the play with the other man shows that she was just looking out for her own wants and gave little thought to her husband and his wants. Not much left by the time her father became involved. I wouldn't think that there would have been enough left for Jeff to even want to try to work it out. Hard to save the marriage when he was the only one doing the lifting. Wife was immature and I didn't like her. But hey, that's just me.

etchiboyetchiboyover 6 years ago
Wow! That mother in-law was perhaps the “snake-iest” person ever...

... I’ve found reading LW, to date. How’d you come up with that scenario?

5-stars

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago

The wife has a grown-up problem, she hasn't.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Liked it

The husband planted the seeds of doubt, and the mother-in-law fertilized it. Given those circumstances, the wife clearly tried to hold onto the marriage despite the external force. I would have liked to see just a bit more recognition from the husband in the role he played setting this in motion.

rightbankrightbankover 6 years ago
The wife made a critical decision

Establishing a relationship with her mother

was more important than

maintaining the one with her husband.

Schwanze1Schwanze1over 6 years ago
Poem

was a nice touch. lol

MattKesterMattKesterover 6 years ago
Excellent!

This is another excellent story. The development of the plot, the characters, and how something fairly complex could be told with excellent rhythm. I am a real fan of Karin and Hank.

fisheronefisheroneover 6 years ago
Justice

I like how some of the characters intertwine with other stories

AnonymousAnonymousabout 6 years ago
Excellent 5*

You have done yourself two big favours in your writing:

1. Got away from willing cuckold stories

2. Got away from BTB stories

I like unwilling cuckold stories with true remorse and reconciliation. This was not far from that.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 6 years ago
3*'s

The story moved around to much, going from past to present.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 6 years ago
Good storytelling

Keep on writing such good stuff. Good storyline, but even better storytelling. I loved the ambivalence of the main figures -- nobody is perfect. But -- there could have been more on the healing of the marriage, the feelings of Emma and of Jeff, and how their different upbringing plays out along those lines... how they doubt and overcome their doubts, what the guilt trip does to her etc..

AnonymousAnonymousabout 6 years ago
Unsure

I think I would have divorced Emma. She obviously took her mother's word instead of her husband. The only thing that "saved" Jeff was getting lucky and also doing something illegal. He had to prove his innocence because she already "knew" he was guilty. The relationship with her mom was more important than her husband. And instead of trying to work through things she went away for days.

Yes, she definitely needed to go. She didn't sleep around but she had already decided Jeff did. She has no trust in Jeff. He and anyone else deserves so much more from a spouse.

CaOldDogCaOldDogabout 6 years ago
Very well written great story 5*

This was one of the best stories on LW's thanks for the story!

anonymousinblueanonymousinbluealmost 6 years ago

I read this one some time ago. I didn't rate or comment. I almost read it again, but it's too damn long and the satisfaction per word is below the threshold needed for a reread without 3-5 years wait. I wrote a comment, stepped away a minute, then realized it just wasn't worth it, so fucking erased everything....and I wrote this instead. I never even got to say "2 * cuck shit" because I erased it.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 6 years ago
To Ananymousinblue...

Since you felt the need to trash this story I went to your site to read some of your offerings to the community. Come to find out that the site is devoid of and written word to share with the masses. I'm surprised. With your obvious great intellect I expected to see stories that would be talked about through the ages. Huh. As my old grannie used to say, "If you don't have any relevant criticism, keep yo trap shut." Then she'd go have a beer. Sounds like a great idea. Good 5* story.

AnonymousAnonymousover 5 years ago

Karin and her husband are the best part of this story, you could make a whole spinoff series about their adventures.

AnonymousAnonymousover 5 years ago
The fairy tale ending

I'm pretty sure any man divorces Emma given what happened. How could he forget/forgive her level of betrayal? And who wants to live the next 50 years waiting for the other shoe to drop?

chytownchytownabout 5 years ago
Great Story Telling****

Very enjoyable read. Thanks for sharing.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 5 years ago
Emma

wasn't five year old; she was equally guilty; there's no reason other than stupidly loving her that must have goaded the guy to take her back. What if he wasn't a geek and what if he couldn't do any of the things he did? Nope; she openly sided her with her mother and one can't be that gullible. Stupid decision.

danoctoberdanoctoberover 4 years ago
Classic BillandKate LW's tale.

Very enjoyable read. *****

There is a lot of detailed events that happen in this story. It's like 3 stories in one and throughout it all it's the character Emma behavior I couldn't get a handle on.

Even though she never cheated on her husband, at one point it look like he was ready to throw in the towel. Why? Because of Emma's attitude.

The husband is doing everything he can to work on the marriage and she takes this wait and see attitude. Fustrating mess for the husband. Like clapping with one hand.

By the end, I had very ambivalent feelings towards the character of Emma. I'm not sure she deserved a happily ever after ending. I'll probably read this again later to figure that one out.

Storm113Storm113over 4 years ago
I gave it 5*, but.....

While I agree with the reconciliation, I think some counselling should have been done. She obviously has quite a few issues (justifiably), but their marriage needs some help to make it. Otherwise, well written and entertaining. That's why the 5*.

AnonymousAnonymousover 4 years ago
Undecided

Undecided whether or not he made the right decision in staying with her.Despite all her good traits ,it is apparent she has a selfish streak and could cause problems in the future.

silentsoundsilentsoundabout 4 years ago
One thing I have found very lacking in your stories however....

Is the lack of work that would be needed for the reconciliation to occur.

This story is a great example. She treats him like shit, dates other men, even if by accident, and gives her mother more trust than him on the way to destroying her marriage and she has to hear it from her dad before she would believe anything was up with her mother.

She had huge hurdles to overcome to make up for her extreme stupidity and lack of trust in a man that had always been honest with her.

She just says, "I'm sorry." and everything is smooth sailing because he is just so happy to have her. Sap.

Grimjack01Grimjack01about 4 years ago
Not enough

Ok this ended a bit fast, the way they got back together had really nothing in it. He seemed too, I'm sorry, ok hun come on back I love you. I honestly think this story could have used a bit more fleshing out on the reconciliation part, overall it's a 5 star interesting story but like I said a bit more fleshing out would have moved it into the high upper excellent instead of just excellent 97/100.

26thNC26thNCabout 4 years ago

Reading this again helps me realize just how good these authors are. This is just great story and well worth reading again. Love the justice meted out to Lois and Grant.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 4 years ago
Agree with silentsound

For as much as Emma distrusted, disrespected, and decided to not even give him a chance to explain, Jeff sure didn't seem to be offended in the least. He seemed to actually crawl back to her.

I am a fan of partnerships and equality in marriage. This story certainly does not show that type of relationship.

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